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Ted Nugent Booted From Army Concert

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Quigley_Sharps, May 1, 2012.

  1. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Ted Nugent Booted From Army Concert
    By Amy Bingham | ABC News – Mon, Apr 30, 2012

    Rocker Ted Nugent may have emerged unscathed from a Secret Service investigation, but his verbal attack of President Obama is now affecting his musical career.
    Commanders at the Fort Knox Army base in Kentucky cut Nugent from their annual summer concert after the controversial rocker told the National Rifle Association he will "either be dead or in jail by this time next year" if Obama is re-elected and blasted members of the administration, saying conservatives should "chop their heads off."
    "After learning of opening act Ted Nugent's recent public comments about the president of the United States, Fort Knox leadership decided to cancel his performance on the installation," Army officials posted on the base's Facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/FortKnoxKY
    Nugent said the concert cancellation was an "insult" and maintained that he was merely exercising his First Amendment rights when he toldthe NRA convention that Obama was running a "vile, evil, America-hating administration."
    "To think that there's a bureaucrat in the United States Army that would consider the use or abuse of First Amendment rights in determining who is going to perform at an Army base is an insult and defiles the sacrifices of those heroes who fought for the U.S. Constitution, Bill of Rights," Nugent told the Associated Press.
    The often-outspoken rocker insisted that he never intended to threaten the president or his administration. After meeting with Nugent in the week following his remarks, the Secret Service dropped its investigation into Nugent's possible threat.
    Days before his meeting with the Secret Service, Nugent was investigated by another federal agency, this time for allegedly killing and transporting a black bear illegally from public land in Alaska.
    While filming an episode of his Outdoor Channel television show "Spirit of the Wild" in May 2009, Nugent shot an arrow at one black bear, drawing blood but not seriously wounding the animal, according to the court papers.
    He then continued hunting, killing a different black bear four days later and transporting it off federal land. Under Alaskan law, hunters can only kill or wound one bear per year, making Nugent's second shot illegal.
    While Nugent said he was unaware that wounding the first bear counted towards his bag limit, he pled guilty to the charges last week in a U.S. District Court in Anchorage.
    "They've got apparently some crazy law in Southeast [Alaska] that says if you even touch an animal with an arrow, it becomes your animal," Nugent's lawyer Wayne Anthony Ross told the Anchorage Daily News. "He looked to see if he had hit it and didn't believe that he'd hit it fatally."
    Under a plea agreement with the federal prosecutors, Nugent has to pay a $10,000 fine, is banned from hunting in Alaska or on any U.S. Forest Service land for a year and has to create a 30-to-60 second public service announcement about responsible hunting that will air during his show every other week for a year.
    Ross said the Alaska incident was "kind of embarrassing" for Nugent because he is a known advocate for ethical hunting practices and gun rights. Both Nugent and Ross sit on the National Rifle Association's board of directors.
    Alaska is the second state to prosecute Nugent for illegal hunting practices. In 2010 Nugent pled no contest to charges in California that he illegally baited a deer and did not have his hunting license properly signed during a 2009 California deer hunt which aired on his television show.
  2. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Nugent is altogether too much to bear

    Maybe the entertainment value of his stage act has reached its "use by" date.

    ted nugent cat scratch fever - YouTube

    The logic of the law that caught up with Nugent in Alaska is pretty clear, even if the law itself may be obscure in its not being widely publicised. Hunters don't get to injure a succession of bears until they hit one that they can actually kill, tag and bag. The law doesn't penalise hunters who's projectile placement is accurate and immediately lethal (Or at least lethal enough for the bear to be tracked down to where it dropped): it penalises incompetent doofuses who hit, but fail to achieve a decisive kill, but who want to keep trying until they actually do drop a bear; any bear.

    I have no issue with Nugent being able to hunt bears provided that he is not contributing to reducing the species to unviability in the wild. He had a legal shot and flunked it. Next time he may be a little more particular about familiarising himself with the relevant game laws applicable to where he hunts. The bears are sure to appreciate it.
  3. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    No one is supposed to say anything about a failed president... Shhhh...
  4. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    failed presidents are fair game...

    Failed presidents are fair game...so is convicting hunters for shooting bears above the legal quota.

    No one is supposed to say anything about a convicted celebrity failed bear hunter... Shhh... ; )

    btw...are the people who are in an uproar over the complained persecution of Ted Nugent for attacking a failed president, the same people who were in an uproar about the claimed persecution of the Dixie Chicks for their criticism of a different failed president?
  5. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

    Yo, Chello... does the timing of it seem .. oh, I don't know.. convenient?
    Perhaps I missed something. Was this an event that was active for a while and FINALLY came to a conclusion? if not, then hey Chello.. does the timing of it seem .. oh, I don't know.. Convenient?
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  6. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    Actually Ted's failure was headline news. 0bama's failures do not merit much attention at all. Perhaps a total failure as head of state is old hat down under; to us it is a new experience.

    A person would need to live a foreign land to find a comparison between Bush and 0bama.. I guess there must be some truth in distance only makes the heart grow fonder. LOL
    All these "locals" and only someone from Australia defends 0bama..

    "Bush says ''the Dixie Chicks are free to speak their mind,'' adding, ''they shouldn't have their feelings hurt just because some people don't want to buy their records when they speak out. You know, freedom is a two-way street.'' After watching this footage, Maines then repeats the president's comment and says, ''What a dumb f---.'' She then looks into the camera, as if addressing Bush himself, and reiterates, ''You're a dumb f---.
    Dixie Chicks To Bush: "You're a Dumb F**k" | TMZ.com ''

    No one has heard 0bama say it was Ted's Right to have an opinion.
  7. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Ted Nugent donations

    and do the same with

    Dixie Chick Donations.
  8. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

    Personally i don't care about the politics of musicians and actors. The problem is the media chooses to publish them. The media feeds off of controversy. As far as music goes I'd rather listen to the dixie chicks than ted nugent. Probably mostly due to my age group.
    chelloveck likes this.
  9. LukeK

    LukeK Monkey

    Whomever holds the office of President, be good or ill, is the commander in chief of US forces, maybe the powers that be at Fort Knox didn't appreciate Nugents comments and decided to cut him because of some perceived insult to the office, who knows, maybe the commanders were being leaned on by higher ups to cancel, who knows, we probably never will know.

    Maybe the best thing he could have done was not to take it so personally and shrug it off, so he got cancelled, big deal, wasn't the first time and most definitely won't be the last time.

    As far as Bush vs Obama, there are many things they have in common, their politicians No 1 and forgive my cynicism but they mostly lie and do not rate high on the trustworthy scale IMO.

    And as mysterymet says, the media will always lead with what stirs the pot and causes some uproar.
    chelloveck likes this.
  10. sgt peppersass

    sgt peppersass Monkey+

    and if there isn't anything, they make stuff up. (cough)NBC and treyvon(cough)
  11. sgt peppersass

    sgt peppersass Monkey+

    Am I the only one that thinks it is odd that ever since Ted said something about the Pres, all of a sudden more than one gov group starts looking into him...
  12. dragonfly

    dragonfly Monkey+++

    He's very lucky....he could've ended up like Breitbart!
    Just sayin......
    Heart attack anyone?
    Drug overdose?
    1 car accident?
    Suicide perhaps?
    Oh yeah, he is lucky!
    So far.....
    oldawg and sgt peppersass like this.
  13. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Thats been my whole point, its happening..
    sgt peppersass likes this.
  14. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    They seek, we hope they find.
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