Ten facts you don't know about the JFK assassination

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  1. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Ten facts you don't know about the JFK assassination
    By Jay BusbeeOctober 18, 2013
    “We analyzed everything we could find, from the facts, to the myths that keep getting repeated,” Meltzer says. “We so want to believe there's a conspiracy. Why? Because we don’t want to believe that our government could be jackknifed by a high school dropout.”

    But sometimes the facts don’t line up with the myth. Here, Meltzer shares with Yahoo 10 aspects of the JFK assassination most Americans may not know, whether because they’re little-known facts or because the myth is a better story.

    10. The window from which Oswald shot Kennedy went missing. On Nov. 22, 1963, Lee Harvey Oswald leaned out a window on the sixth floor of the Texas Book Depository in Dallas and fired three shots. Six years after the assassination, Gen. D. Harold Byrd, owner of the building, had the window removed. “This being Texas,” Meltzer says, “he had it framed and hung in his mansion.” The only problem? It was the wrong window, according to Aubrey Mayhew, the building’s later owner. Mayhew pried out what he said was the right window. Both windows eventually ended up on eBay; Meltzer believes Mayhew’s is the “real” one.

    9. Plenty of shooters recreated Oswald’s shot. One of the more pervasive myths surrounding the JFK assassination was the idea that no other shooter could replicate Oswald’s feat of shooting three times in 6.75 seconds. So another shooter must have been involved, right? Not necessarily. The Warren Commission reported that one marksman was able to pull off the feat in 4.6 seconds, and a later CBS investigation showed that 11 marksmen averaged 5.6 seconds. Also, Oswald’s shot was, for a trained shooter, relatively easy. Oswald and other military marksmen are trained to shoot anywhere from 200 to 500 yards. Kennedy was 88 yards from Oswald at his farthest point, and 59 yards away at the time of the last shot.

    8. Oliver Stone’s "JFK" damaged history. “Oliver Stone is a great filmmaker,” Meltzer says. “But his film 'JFK' did a great disservice to history by mixing fact and fiction. For the 20 million people that saw it in theaters, and the millions who have seen it afterward, that became the official record of the assassination.” Meltzer notes that several characters in the movie were created for the purposes of storytelling and had no relation whatsoever to real events.

    7. There was no “Magic Bullet.” The most pervasive myth perpetuated by “JFK” was the idea that a single bullet could have passed through Kennedy’s body, changed direction twice, and then entered the body of Texas Gov. John Connally, riding in the limo’s front seat, before emerging pristine. “You’d think there’s no way one bullet could do that, and you’d be right … if the men were sitting facing forward like they were in an airplane. Governor Connally was turned to the right, and the bullet traveled in a straight line. Also, Meltzer points out, FBI investigators have noted that the bullet is in no way “pristine”; it’s flat on one side.

    6. The U.S. government erred in keeping its investigation secret. In 1964, the Warren Commission held the investigation into the assassination behind closed doors. As later review of the proceedings has shown, the absence of publicly released information allowed speculation to spread in many dark (and often incorrect) directions.

    5. Kennedy’s family chose to keep secrets as well. JFK’s family made the understandable, but regrettable, decision to keep Kennedy’s hospital and autopsy records under wraps. As with the Warren Commission, Meltzer says, this gave the inaccurate perception that the Kennedy family had something to hide. And it meant the American public didn't get to see the actual evidence.

    4. The government is not keeping very many JFK secrets, and won’t keep any for much longer. One benefit of the JFK film, Meltzer notes, is that it led to the declassification of 97 percent of all government documents related to the Kennedy assassination. The other 3 percent will be declassified in 2017, unless the president decides to keep them under wraps.

    3. Were there really “mysterious deaths?” One of the pervasive rumors surrounding the investigation into JFK’s death was that many witnesses died of mysterious circumstances. Nonsense, Meltzer says. “The idea that there was a hit squad going around tying off loose ends just doesn’t hold up,” he says. “Many of the people died long after giving testimony. And most died of heart disease. The No. 1 killer of Americans is heart disease. A few were unusual, but not as many as people say.”

    2. There was no “fourth shot” from the grassy knoll. The Warren Commission found that there were three shots fired in the assassination. Several years later, the House Select Committee on Assassinations indicated that an audio recording discovered later found that there was a fourth shot, and it must have come from a “grassy knoll” near the depository. Problem is, 12 acoustics experts ruled out the possibility of a fourth shot. Moreover, that fourth shot came a minute after Oswald’s shots, a time when the motorcade was already well on the way to the hospital.

    1. The true killer of JFK was … As Meltzer notes, the “true killer” of JFK in the popular imagination changes depending on the mood of the time. “In the 1960s, we believed it was the Soviets. In the 1970s, it was the CIA, as we distrusted our own government. In the 1980s, with the rise of Mob movies, it was the Mafia. Now, we believe our own government was in on it. JFK's killer is whoever we're most afraid of at the time.”

    As both 9/11 and the Boston Marathon bombing have shown, there’s no way that a public event could unfurl like the Kennedy assassination, with a lack of primary-source recordings. “Information travels so quickly now,” Meltzer says. “We have camera angles from every direction. All the evidence is right in front of us, all the puzzle pieces are right there.”

    Even after 50 years, Meltzer believes the JFK assassination remains important because of the way it mirrors our own beliefs about ourselves as Americans. “It’s our white whale, and we are Ahabs,” he says. “It’s a reflection of all of our hopes and all of our fears.”

    Meltzer's "History Decoded" includes more on the JFK assassination, as well as research into mysteries of World War II, Area 51 and many other legends. Each chapter of the book includes removable evidence, including JFK's actual death certificate. "So you examine the evidence yourself," Meltzer says. For more information on the book,

    visit Meltzer's website.

    Contact Jay Busbee at jay.busbee@yahoo.com or on Twitter at @jaybusbee.
  2. CaboWabo5150

    CaboWabo5150 Hell's coming with me

    One fact I do know of the JFK assassination. Very few people really know the whole story, and as the years go by, and those people pass on, there are less sides of the story to tell.
  3. -06

    -06 Monkey+++

    Was walking across campus when the news went out. Ran back to the room to catch it. Do not think the whole story will ever be told. Johnson is dead as well as lots of witnesses. Just too many questions to suit me.
  4. stg58

    stg58 Monkey+++ Founding Member

    I went to the Museum in Dallas in 2006 and Dealey plaza if you lived through that crazy era it was quite an experience to be at the site I have seen over and over on TV.
    Robert Groden was there as it seems he frequents I picked up his DVD of all of the available footage, it was kind of as a pity buy he was a sad individual at that time unkempt and living on his fame from the JFK movie.
    Kind of like Moby Dick he is hunting for the White Whale and it defines him and seems to have consumed him....

    Never the less it was an interesting afternoon..

    From Wiki:
    Robert J. Groden (born November 22, 1945) is an American author who has written extensively about conspiracy theories regarding the assassination of U.S. President John F. Kennedy. His books include The Killing of a President: The Complete Photographic Record of the JFK Assassination, the Conspiracy, and the Cover-up; The Search for Lee Harvey Oswald: A Comprehensive Photographic Record; and JFK: The Case for Conspiracy (shorter version than his 1975 co-authored book).[1] Groden is a photo-optics technician who served as a photographic consultant for the House Select Committee on Assassinations.[2]

    He was a consultant for Oliver Stone's 1991 film JFK, even appearing in two brief cameo roles as a Parkland doctor working to save the President, and, as the courtroom projectionist showing the Zapruder film during the Clay Shaw trial in New Orleans.

    "Groden can be found on many days of the week in Dealey Plaza up on its north grassy knoll, where he freely discusses his research and thoughts about the assassination and sells his books and videos. He was arrested on 13 June 2010, for selling merchandise in Dealey Plaza without a permit, as the Dallas City Code does not permit merchandise to be sold in that area, which is under the control of its Park and Recreation Department.[11] Groden has since filed a federal lawsuit against the City of Dallas as a result of the arrest."
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2013
  5. franks71vw

    franks71vw Monkey+++

    Thats exactly what they want to happen, have those involved die and no one can speak. I know of this as I have two coworkers that were in the mix. Sadly they are on there last leg...
  6. stg58

    stg58 Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Along with branding anyone who looks into it a "conspiracy nut". There is so much out there the truth is in the eye of the beholder...
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2013
  7. VHestin

    VHestin Farm Chick

    My mother has said many times she thinks it was an 'inside job'. My reply has always been "We'll never know."At least until we die and can ask the 'higher ups'. Well she can ask that, I wanna know if Jed Clampett ever had that 'long talk' with Jethro.
    kellory likes this.
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