Discussion in 'Politics' started by tacmotusn, Aug 5, 2012.

  1. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

    The lies continue, Holder, Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Napolitano, all Blatant liars.
    Why should America believe anything that comes out of Washington DC?
    When are we going to throw these bums out?
    from ... Insider Report from Newsmax.com 08/05/2012 ....
    A National Drug Intelligence Center (NDIC) report released in March 2010 stated that there have been no documented cases of terrorists illegally entering the United States across the Mexican border.
    But Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano has contradicted that assertion with an admission that terrorists do cross the border “from time to time” with intent to attack Americans.
    At a July 25 hearing of the House Homeland Security Committee, Rep. Ron Barber, D-Ariz., asked Napolitano: “As you know, Madam Secretary, there have been anecdotal reports about material evidence of the presence of terrorists along our southern border. My question is, is there any credible evidence that these reports are accurate and that terrorists are, in fact, crossing our southern border with the intent to do harm to the American people?”
    Napolitano answered: “With respect, there have been from time to time, and we are constantly working against different and evolving threats involving various terrorist groups and various ways they may seek to enter the country.”
    She did say that the U.S.-Mexico border is “heavily, heavily staffed at record amounts of manpower, materiel, infrastructure and the like, and we are constantly making sure we're doing all we can to make that border as safe as possible.”
    The earlier report from the NDIC, a division of the U.S. Justice Department, stated: “Of some concern to law enforcement officials is the potential for using drug smuggling routes to move terrorists or transport weapons of mass destruction into the United States. However, there have been no incidents of this type documented, and according to federal law enforcement officials, the involvement of Mexican [drug trafficking organizations] in this type of activity is very unlikely.”
    But Napolitano is not the first to make a statement to the contrary. In an August 2007 interview with the El Paso Times, then-Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell was asked: “Are terrorist coming across the Southwest border?”
    He responded: “Not in great numbers.”
    “So there are some cases?” the interviewer asked.
    Said McConnell: “There are some.” He added: “There were a significant number of Iraqis who came across last year. Smuggled across illegally.”
  2. wrc223

    wrc223 Monkey+

    I aint so good on "guvment numbers" and how they come to the conclusions they do so I am going to need a little help.

    If the guvment says there are a "few" cases of something then I PROBABLY should take it that there were a LOT of cases.......right?
  3. Alpha Dog

    Alpha Dog survival of the breed

    What upsets me about this is how our goverment sends Troops across the world to secure borders and by force if necessary. Then they can't or I think a better word would be won't secure our borders right here at home. The worst part is for the most part it's not being done because of politics not wanting to offend people who shouldn't be here any way. If you look at any other country that has other countries bordering them look at haow well fortified that border is and what happens if some one attempts to cross illegally. The runner is only given one verbal warning and the next thing the runner hears is the tump of the bullet hitting him. Don't mean to sound cold or harsh but the American people will never be safe from terrorist until we secure our borders at home first.
  4. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Mostly agree, AD. One of the problems is that the military is specifically prohibited from enforcement of what is considered civil law business at the borders. Other nations do not "suffer" from that limitation, and the rules of engagement are radically different. Another obstacle is that the US tries to maintain a morally superior position, to set an example of humanitarian scruples. (Never mind that the international watchdogs think we are a less than sterling example of human rights support.) Plus, the weenies think that if we get heavy handed, retaliation will result. Well, it could, I suppose, but on the other hand, if we establish strength rather than wimpiness, one might think it would act as a restraint on retaliation.

    Methinks it's time to live up to the worst we can be and come down heavy on the borders. Loose the dogs, says me.
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  5. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    Yes, but can they get out?
  6. wrc223

    wrc223 Monkey+

    ghrit, the Federal Government strong arms the local civil authority to keep the borders open and free.
  7. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    The way I see it, the FedGov clowns have to admit to some border crossings, so they can justify asking for more money to fight it. Never mind that Big Sister is giving the average illegal a pass. Heck, her Party needs those shiney new-minted Democrat voters, right?
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  8. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    The terrorists run the world. They just use phony puppet terrorists du jour to keep us busy looking under rocks and in closets.
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  9. STANGF150

    STANGF150 Knowledge Seeker

    Way I see it theres no problem. Just classify those illegal Border crossings as what it really is, an INVASION!!! Therefore no need to have Military involved in Civil Law, they can just Defend the USA against the Invasion!!! There, all nice & tidy legally.
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