This quoted from our most vocal resident atheist. "engaging with reason as a means of attempting to discover what is true, rather than rely on authority, or the revelations of this or that cleric or this or that scriptural text." This sums up very well the atheists view of the religious. ( I am editing this after review as many atheists, the generality of the original statement is not valid)It also happens to be the exact same argument, in essence, as that of most liberals. Not implying any direct correlation just an interesting factoid. The crux of the argument is that to believe differently than they do you simply aren't intelligent enough to understand. "If you were as smart as I am you would agree with me". You see this in liberal media quite blatantly. The inference is that they are somehow more enlightened, more educated, more of a free thinker than those poor fools who succumb to other beliefs. Be it conservatism or religion. If you only did your own thinking. They somehow believe that all people of faith are blindly following whatever preacher or priest, believing without questioning. Accepting what they are told and not researching it for themselves. Just look at how the liberal media portrays the Tea Party movement or conservatives in general. Redneck bubba's, uneducated hicks from the sticks. They just don't know any better. Clinging to their bibles and their guns. When in fact it is quite the opposite. The snobbish elitists, be it atheists or liberals completely fail to grasp the concept that it is their own vanity and ego that prohibits them from seeing the truth. They cannot see the forest for the trees. The further you get into intelligent research, the more immersed you become in scientific, factual study, the more you begin to see the truth. The more aware you become. But that doesn't happen with the blind who believe that they posses the truth, the knowledge, and the intelligence that they believe to be lacking in those who don't follow their beliefs. Show an atheist undeniable scientific proof of creationism and they simply ignore it, scoff at it, and refuse to believe it. They counter with "show me the proof" but then insist "that's not the truth" if it conflicts with their beliefs. History is rife with examples of the very brightest, smartest, scientific minds coming to face the conclusion that there must be a God. Many who have set out to disprove his existence have become his most ardent defenders. This idea that if you only "engage with reason" you will see the truth is a sham. It keeps so many from ever breaking out of their self imposed mold. They are the ones with the closed minds, they are the ones deluded and confused, and they are the last to see it. But we of faith see that this is a favorite tactic of the enemy from time immemorial. To confuse the wise with their own wisdom, to blind those who believe they see so clearly. God says about this generation that "their wisdom will come to naught". To argue that only the uneducated or those who are easily deluded believe in God is to deny history. Here are just a few "wise" men who also believed in God. And I left out those before the 1800's. Just for the sake of argument that they were coerced in their beliefs. Learned men like Copernicus, Descartes's, Isaac Newton to name just a few. Here are some more modern scholars who didn't let their "intelligence" get in the way. Gregor Mendel (1822–1884) Augustinian Abbot who was the "father of modern genetics" for his study of the inheritance of traits in pea plants. James Dwight Dana (1813–1895) A geologist, mineralogist, and zoologist. He received the Copley Medal, Wollaston Medal, and the Clarke Medal. He also wrote a book titled Science and the Bible and his faith has been described as "both orthodox and intense." Louis Pasteur (1822–1895) Inventor of the pasteurization method, a French chemist and microbiologist. He also solved the mysteries of rabies, anthrax, chicken cholera, and silkworm diseases, and contributed to the development of the first vaccines. Lord Kelvin (1824–1907) He gave a famous address to the Christian Evidence Society. In science he won the Copley Medal, the Royal Medal, and was important in Thermodynamics Georg Cantor (1845–1918) Lutheran who wrote on religious topics and had an interest in Medieval theology. Revolutionized the mathematical notion of infinity by the introduction of set theory. Dmitri Egorov (1869–1931) Russian mathematician who made significant contributions to the broader areas of differential geometry. He was an Imiaslavie who defended religion during the Soviet era. In 1930 the Soviets arrested and imprisoned him as a "religious sectarian." He died of a hunger strike in protest. Max Planck (1858–1947) He won the 1918 Nobel Prize in Physics and is considered the founder of Quantum mechanics. He had been raised an observant Lutheran and was an elder in his church from 1920 to his death. In 1937 he delivered the lecture, "Religion and Natural Science", stating that both religion and science require a belief in God. Edward Arthur Milne (1896–1950) British astrophysicist and mathematician who proposed the Milne model and had a Moon crater named for him. In addition he won several awards including the Gold Medal of the Royal Astronomical Society. His last book was Modern Cosmology and the Christian Idea of God. E. T. Whittaker (1873–1956) Converted to Catholicism in 1930 and member of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences. His 1946 Donnellan Lecture was entitled on Space and Spirit. Theories of the Universe and the Arguments for the Existence of God. He also received the Copley Medal and had written on Mathematical physics before conversion Georges Lemaître (1894–1966) Roman Catholic priest who was first to propose the Big Bang theory. (Sheldon Cooper would be aghast) William G. Pollard (1911–1989) Anglican priest who wrote Physicist and Christian. In addition he worked on the Manhattan Project and for years served as the executive director of Oak Ridge Institute of Nuclear Studies. Sir Robert Boyd (1922–2004) A pioneer in British space science who was Vice President of the Royal Astronomical Society. He lectured on faith being a founder of the "Research Scientists' Christian Fellowship" and an important member of its predecessor Christians in Science. He was connected to the University College London C. F. von Weizsäcker (1912–2007) German nuclear physicist who is the co-discoverer of the Bethe-Weizsäcker formula. His The Relevance of Science: Creation and Cosmogony concerned Christian and moral impacts of science. He headed the Max Planck Society from 1970 to 1980. After that he retired to be a Christian pacifist. Stanley Jaki (1924–2009) Benedictine priest and Distinguished Professor of Physics at Seton Hall University, New Jersey, who won a Templeton Prize and advocated the idea modern science could only have arisen in a Christian society Charles Hard Townes (born 1915) In 1964 he won the Nobel Prize in Physics and in 1966 he wrote The Convergence of Science and Religion Freeman Dyson (born 1923) He has won the Lorentz Medal, the Max Planck Medal, and the Lewis Thomas Prize. He also ranked 25th in The 2005 Global Intellectuals Poll. He has won the Templeton Prize and delivered one of the Gifford Lectures Christopher Isham (born 1944)Theoretical physicist who developed HPO formalism. He teaches at Imperial College London. In addition to being a physicist, he is a philosopher and theologian. Henry F. Schaefer, III (born 1944) He wrote Science and Christianity: Conflict or Coherence? ISBN 0-9742975-0-X and is a signatory of A Scientific Dissent From Darwinism. He was awarded the American Chemical Society Award in Pure Chemistry in 1979 Robert T. Bakker (born 1945) Paleontologist who was a figure in the "dinosaur Renaissance" and known for the theory some dinosaurs were Warm-blooded. He is also a Pentecostal preacher who advocates theistic evolution and has written on religion. Kenneth R. Miller (born 1948)Biology professor at Brown University who wrote Finding Darwin's God ISBN 0-06-093049-7 Francis Collins (born 1950) He is the current director of the National Institutes of Health and former director of the US National Human Genome Research Institute. He has also written on religious matters in articles and in Faith and the Human Genome he states the importance to him of "the literal and historical Resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, which is the cornerstone of what I believe." He wrote the book The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief. Jennifer Wiseman She is Chief of the Laboratory for Exoplanets and Stellar Astrophysics at NASA Goddard Space Flight Center. In addition she is a co-discoverer of 114P/Wiseman-Skiff. In religion is a Fellow of the American Scientific Affiliation and on June 16, 2010 became the new director for the American Association for the Advancement of Science's Dialogue on Science, Ethics, and Religion. And that is just a miniscule sampling So it would appear that many of the worlds most intelligent people in history have indeed "engaged in reason and discovered the truth". And they all think that Chelloveck is full of ****!