The Coming War- Middle East On Fire

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  1. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

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    Ordinary folk take up military training over Russia threat - Yahoo News


    Ordinary folk take up military training over Russia threat
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      WARSAW, Poland (AP) — NATO aircraft scream across eastern European skies and American armored vehicles rumble near the border with Russia on a mission to reassure citizens that they're safe from Russian aggression.


      But these days, ordinary people aren't taking any chances.

      In Poland, doctors, shopkeepers, lawmakers and others are heeding a call to receive military training in case of an invasion. Neighboring Lithuania is restoring the draft and teaching citizens what to do in case of war. Nearby Latvia has plans to give university students military training next year.

      The drive to teach ordinary people how to use weapons and take cover under fire reflects soaring anxiety among people in a region where memories of Moscow's domination — which ended only in the 1990s — remain raw. People worry that their security and hard-won independence are threatened as saber-rattling intensifies between the West and Russia over the conflict in Ukraine, where more than 6,000 people have died.

      In Poland, the oldest generation remembers the Soviet Army's invasion in 1939, at the start of World War II. Younger people remain traumatized by the repression of the communist regime that lasted more than four decades.

      It's a danger felt across the EU newcomer states that border Russia.



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      In this Nov. 21, 2014 file photo, Polish and British troops take part in a joint military exercise i …
      "There's a real feeling of threat in our society," Latvian defense ministry spokeswoman Aija Jakubovska told The Associated Press. Military training for students is a "way we can increase our own defense capabilities."

      Most people are still looking to NATO's military umbrella as their main guarantor of security. Zygmunt Wos waved goodbye to a detachment of U.S. armored vehicles leaving the eastern Polish city of Bialystok with apprehension: "These troops should be staying with us," he said, "not going back to Germany."

      Poland has been at the forefront of warnings about the dangers of the Ukraine conflict. Just 17 hours by car from the battle zone, Poland has stepped up efforts to upgrade its weapons arsenal, including a possible purchase of U.S.-made Tomahawk missiles. It will host a total of some 10,000 NATO and other allied troops for exercises this year. Its professional army is 100,000-strong, and 20,000 reservists are slated for test-range training.

      It's the grassroots mobilization, however, that best demonstrates the fears: The government has reached out to some 120 paramilitary groups with tens of thousands of members, who are conducting their own drills, in an effort to streamline them with the army exercises.

      In an unprecedented appeal, Parliament Speaker Radek Sikorski urged lawmakers to train at a test range in May, while Defense Minister Tomasz Siemoniak called on men and women aged between 18 and 50, and with no military experience, to sign up for test-range exercise. So far, over 2,000 people have responded.



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      In this Nov. 21, 2014 file photo, Polish soldiers, center, and British troops, left and right, take …
      "The times are dangerous and we must do all we can to raise Poland's ability to defend its territory," President Bronislaw Komorowski said during a recent visit to a military unit.

      The Poles believe they have grounds for feeling particularly vulnerable because they have been invaded by Russia repeatedly since the 18th century. Russian leader Vladimir Putin seems to have singled out Poland, a staunch U.S. ally, as a prime enemy in the struggle over Ukraine, accusing it of training "Ukrainian nationalists" and instigating unrest.

      Recently Moscow said it will place state-of-the-art Iskander missiles in its Kaliningrad enclave, bordering Poland and Lithuania, for a major exercise.

      Last week, over 550 young Polish reservists were summoned on one hour's notice to a military base for a mobilization drill. In their 20s and 30s, in jeans and sneakers, the men and women arrived at a base in Tarnowskie Gory, in southern Poland for days of shooting practice. One of them, 35-year-old former soldier Krystian Studnia, said the call was "absolutely natural."

      "Everyone should be willing and ready to fight to defend his country," he said.



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      In this photo taken in Tarnowskie Gory, Poland, March 24, 2015, one of some 550 reservists who were …
      In Warsaw, Mateusz Warszczak, 23, glowed with excitement as he signed up at a recruitment center. "I want to be ready to defend my family, my relatives, from danger," he said.

      Even older Poles feel obliged to take responsibility for their own safety.

      In September, Wojciech Klukowski, a 58-year-old medical doctor, and his friends organized a civic militia group of about 50 men and women of various ages, and called it the National Guard. They practiced skirmishes and shooting, with the aim of becoming citizen-soldiers in their hometown of Szczecin, on the Baltic Sea coast.

      "We do not feel fully safe," Klukowski said. "Many people ... want to be trained to defend their homes, their work places, their families."
     
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  3. oldawg

    oldawg Monkey+++

    Seems the Polish .gov recognizes the value of their Minutemen. All the jokes aside,the Polish have been known to field some fierce fighters.
     
  4. -06

    -06 Monkey+++

    Let's hope it is all just sabre rattling and that the soldiers need not be used. We have other problems beside Russian aggression.
     
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  5. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Agree. All the same, I cannot find any fault with preparing at any level, be it neighborhood or national.
     
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  6. DarkLight

    DarkLight Live Long and Prosper - On Hiatus

    Wish there was a chance in hell our guv trusted us enough to do the same. Not that I'm excited by the thought of NEEDING it from an aggressive neighbor.
     
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  7. Kingfish

    Kingfish Self Reliant

    We don't have an aggressive neighbor just an aggressive government bent on enslaving us. Who is really our enemy ? ask yourself this one question? Is it Korea? Russia? China? Iran? or is it simply the central banks who use us all to wage war for profit? Who is pssing off the Russians? Is it you and me? or is it some Globalist agenda that we are somehow attached to?
     
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  8. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Yup and the best mathematicians and code breakers in WWll.

    Pretty much it is the power brokers aka money folks.
     
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    Chinese experts reportedly say North Korea may have 20 nuclear warheads - Yahoo News
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    North Korea’s nuclear weapons capability may be larger and advancing more rapidly than either the United States or China had estimated, according to Chinese experts cited in a US news report.
    A report by the Wall Street Journal says Chinese specialists on North Korea who met with US officials in February told them “that North Korea may already have 20 warheads, as well as the capability of producing enough weapons-grade uranium to double its arsenal by next year.”

    US officials have warned over the past year about the North’s progress in “miniaturizing” its nuclear arsenal to fit atop a missile, as well as its gains in three separate long-range rocket programs. One such rocket is an intercontinental missile designed to carry a payload more than 5,000 miles, theoretically putting it within range of California.
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  12. Brokor

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  13. DarkLight

    DarkLight Live Long and Prosper - On Hiatus

    Call it whatever they want, it's state sponsored piracy and extortion.
     
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  14. -06

    -06 Monkey+++

    Thinking the middle east is going to be the hottest spot for awhile. Lots going on there.
     
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  15. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Brzezinski commented it will rake in the dough for the establishment for 100 years. It's central to propping up FIAT cartels and shoveling funds into private hands for their black ops empire.

    Update: Us Troops in Romania
     
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    U.S. Officials ...Consider Nuclear Strikes against Russia.

    "US Defense Secretary Ashton Carter is meeting today at the headquarters of the US European Command in Stuttgart, Germany with two dozen US military commanders and European diplomats to discuss how to escalate their economic and military campaign against Russia. They will assess the impact of current economic sanctions, as well as NATO’s strategy of exploiting the crisis in eastern Ukraine to deploy ever-greater numbers of troops and military equipment to Eastern Europe, threatening Russia with war."

    U.S. Considers Nuclear Strikes As An Option Against Russia [REPORT]
    Military Madness: US Officials Consider Nuclear Strikes against Russia | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization
     
  18. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    And as our officials ponder a nuclear strike on mother Russia..... Russia ponders strikes on us. We all know that we have the procrastinator in chief..... and Putin likes to pull the trigger.....yeah baby, good times for all the children. :eek:
     
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  19. -06

    -06 Monkey+++

    What really ticks me off is that the Iraqi troops let all those weapons, tanks, trucks, supplies, etc fall into ISIS hands when they ran from Mosul/Ramadi/etc. First rule in being overrun is to destroy anything that they can use against you by what ever means it takes.
     
  20. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    Let *let me cough up a lung* we gave weapons to ISID when they were called something else. Our government idiots who never put any of theirs or themselves on the line.
    06 I'm not being sarcastic at you I am upset that Iraq soldiers walked off and left their weapons too. But the bigger issue is how we gave weapons to them so we could sell weapons to iraq. And our leadership has no skin in the game. Soz. Thus is a hit topic for me. I hate losing people I know much less people I love.
     
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