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The Ed brown standoff gone terribly wrong

Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by Tango3, Jun 24, 2007.

  1. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

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    Perfect Recipe for Revolution ​
    The Brown Case: Perfect Recipe for Revolution - a very BAD one
    By Tyler N. Moore, Anarchist/Libertarian ​
    This is a warning about a violent levée en masse . This is not to say that is not, or never an option, but a warning to think before we leap. We have an insidious enemy who is always thinking a step or two ahead.
    The Mister and Doctor Browns' case has the makings in it for the perfect revolution. Perfect, that is, from the prospective of the tyrants in the District. The potential is there for a chain of events which could spell out the demise of hundreds, if not thousands of dissidents, and secure the Federal oppressors' power. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. The reaction to Waco was the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building attack, followed by negative media coverage that well sunk the militia movement. The reaction to this maybe much worse. How much worse? Imagine every conspiracy plot, and all the recent anti-'terrorism' legislation coming into play for a government that's been holding their cards tightly, waiting for the perfect moment. If the Federal Agents raid the Brown's and people die, to paraphrase Tom Zarek from Battlestar: Galactica, "there will be assassination attempts. There will be sectarian violence. There will be civil unrest on a scale we've not seen before" (not in recent times anyways). Or, maybe not. Perhaps it will pass like Waco with only one or so acts of retribution. Yet imagine, if you will, this worst case scenario:
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    The Department of Homeland Security takes on the case, declaring the self-styled militias, "enemy combatants". Raids commence to seize their assets and arrest many "conspirators". Mass rallies pop up, but Federal Agents inside them, and well directed media attention gives the impression of mass rioting and the purpose of bringing attention to the murders at Plainfield and the Governments use of force is ignored. Some of the protest turn violent (spurred on either by militant patriots, or federal embeds), and many are injured and killed, much to the delight of the media who fills the American mind with images of "bomb throwing anti-government types". This is when things turn nasty.
    Anti-government militias hit a high profile target. Maybe a high administrator in the Federal Reserve (part of their claimed Illuminati Cabal), or in the IRS. Perhaps a governor or a senator. More rioting breaks out as other groups join in, the murder of Ed and Elaine serve only as a backdrop for other groups, as anarchist, anti-globalist and separatist exploit the situation. For this the State does what it does best, and eight months into the conflict, she pulls out the big guns. This is when the "shooting war" really begins. A state of emergency is declared, thousands are arrested, either through direct connections to violent acts, or for strong, and even militant anti-government postings on the net. The reaction is more violence from both sides till the strong arm of the State has no choice (in its own warped mind) but to crush the 'resistance'. Martial law is declared in major cities, and in a de facto form across the country. Political enemies to "the powers that be" get caught in the middle, and detained and even killed, along with the radical militant elements. Everyone from anti-war protesters to environmentalist are caught up in the security crackdown.
    This continues into the 2008 elections, where the election issues shift from the normal drone of health care and Social Security reform, to the issue of "Domestic Security". A few candidates try to use the Brown's case to show that the Federal Government has over steps their bounds, however a well-directed media, as well as neo-conservative candidates skews the facts to treat these candidates as "terrorist sympathizers". Dr. Ron Paul's campaign was torn apart early on, when many of his supporters were arrested under the crackdown, and Dr. Paul himself demonized as a supporter of "terrorism". Early comments made in the election concerning 9-11 as well as the Brown's case and his appearance on "radical" films and radio shows (eg. Alex Jones and Aaron Russo), results in him being investigated by several Federal entities, that are well publicized by the Media to trash his campaign. With the grassroots movement killed by legislation passed after the attacks began, the mass media once again uses its powerhouse of information to ensure the victory of a high profile neo-conservative candidate. Crackdowns increase till any form of dissent is crushed. Our character here is not a deeply religious man, but considers himself a Catholic. That is enough to pull some of the Hawkish social conservatives over to him. Once in power, 'he is completely single-minded and has no regard for the political process'. The constitution, though still the touted "supreme-law" of the land is nothing but a memory. Sweeping legislation passed by the new congress and signed by the new president, makes free speech, gun ownership and the right to general dissent a distant and faint memory. The police state is now firmly in control of Amercia. The North American Union is put into place, further enslaving both the populations of Mexico and Canada in a silent coup, under the direction of the new President. Across the globe the Internet, a "hive of the rebellious agents", is strictly controlled. Many cities enact military enforced curfews, and the militarized police forces ensure an unarmed population stays in line. The Imperialist Wars continue with little protest back home and liberty in America dies in a thunderous applause in his first State of the Union address.
    The 'revolution' is over.
    And we loose... Everything...
    If tragedy strikes Plainfield, there will be a reaction by many. Sadly, I see it only playing into the hands of the oppressors if we do not guard ourselves.
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  2. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    I see them getting a lot of press all the while I think they should be in jail. Wow, I bet all of us here pay our taxes, yet these yahoos don't have to? :mad:It's amazing how many people want public services, they want us to have a strong military, food inspection, safe pharmecuticals, import and export safeguards, etc. etc., yet they don't want to pay taxes.

    I hope they get thrown under the jail.
  3. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    From what I've gathered, their cause is wrong. It is too bad they are drawing attention to issues in a backwards manner, and even worse that they are being equated with those of us that feel the dot gov is not always wrong.
  4. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    I agree with ghrit their cause is wrong. I'm not willing to stand in front of the feddys because of some yet to be proven semantic loophole (esoteric legal argument)....This has taken on a life of its own because of the bullhorn crowd..
  5. Blackjack

    Blackjack Monkey+++

    Little to none of our income tax goes to these things. By the time the IRS and the Fed Reserve get done sucking up the money, there's none left.

    Don't let them turn you into a puppet. "Throw the dissenters in jail".
  6. ozarkgoatman

    ozarkgoatman Resident goat herder

    First we had a strong military prior to paying income taxes. As far as the FDA, ATF, FBI, DEA, and all the other Unconsititional agenises, I don't want them. Nor do I think I should have to pay for them. People in this country what to be cared for from cradle to grave that is why we shall never have freedom in this country again. :mad:

  7. Clyde

    Clyde Jet Set Tourer Administrator Founding Member

    I don't want any of these from the government. I doubt the browns do, either.
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