the .gov ends speculation about ammo purchases

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by CATO, Aug 18, 2012.


  1. CATO

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  2. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    I seem to recall, that the Geneva Convention, specifies that Military Small Arms Ammunition needs to be be FMJ... I don't recall Depleted Uranium being loaded in anything smaller than 50 Cal, but that is off the top of my head......
     
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  3. Pyrrhus

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    Oh good, glad they cleared that up. Nothing to see here people, keep mooooving.
     
  4. TwoCrows

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  5. DarkLight

    DarkLight I self identify as a Blackhawk Attack Helicopter! Site Supporter

    Actually I believe its the Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907.
     
  6. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    True, but only for signatories to the conventions.
     
  7. TwoCrows

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    Hague Conventions, but they will not matter, unless you can make a formal declaration of war and are a signatory.

    They will claim this is law enforcement, and cops are not required to use only FMJ

    I expect this to be more like Saddam Husseins dirty fight with the Kurds, only worse.
     
  8. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    You are right of course.... DarkLight.... I get Geneva and Hague confused all the time.... Old Age I believe... at least, that is my story.....
     
  9. Tikka

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  10. TwoCrows

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    The military uses about 70,000 rounds per enemy soldier killed.

    1.5 billion divided by 70,000 equals 21,429

    They are going to need A LOT more
     
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  11. CATO

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  12. JABECmfg

    JABECmfg multi-useless Site Supporter

    I'm still trying to get a grip on the idea that the SSA has its own armed special agents... Seriously, the SSA?!?
     
  13. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Yea I got to see one at the local office here sitting in a chair by the door . I went there to make sure they had my Dad as deceased when he passed and to stop his SSI.
     
  14. JABECmfg

    JABECmfg multi-useless Site Supporter

    I suppose I can see where the fedgov would want its own people for security, rather than hiring an outside firm...

    At least he had a chair, reminds me of that "Seinfeld" episode...
     
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  15. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Yea it made me do a double take when I saw him. Kinda startled me as I walked in I wasn't expecting to see that.
     
  16. fedorthedog

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    Cop are not covered by either convention. Hollow points have been the norm for the last 30 years that I have been an LEO. The funny thing is we all used cheaper ball "practice" ammo for training even if duty rounds were used for qualification. And most places I know qualify with practice ammo, it shoots the same.
     
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  17. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    LE agencies have selected hollow point because they fragment, supposedly reducing the chances of a thru and thru on a perp injuring a bystander. Not so sure that's a good thing to rely on after the Empire State Building exercise.
     
  18. CATO

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    Then shouldn't they order frangible ammo?
     
  19. TwoCrows

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    $1.10 to $1.30 per round is very expensive for practice, I guess it is a good thing for them that they don't have to pay for it.
     
  20. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    I would make them PAY, $1.00US, for every round that misses the Perp..... and $2.00US PLUS Medical Bills, for each bystander hit....
    There will be a lot of BROKE LEOs walking around.... No Coffee & Donut Money....
     
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