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One of my pockets might contain something beside keys.

 

What they fail to mention fully, is these keys are "proximity keys" of the type that only need to be present to function. It does NOT work for standard key fobs which STILL REQUIRE a button to be pushed to be used.

 

Not quite what I meant, ma'am. When I worked security (many years ago) it was stressed heavily, not to walk the same path at the same time. Mix it up, watch the shadows, keep your head and eye moving, or someone could easily plot your movements, and attacks you, or break in because they know where you are as well as you do. Keys are removed from bodies, very easily. Do your best not to assume room temperature.

 

@kellory
Technical paper on how they do it:
https://eprint.iacr.org/2010/332.pdf

It is kind of interesting.

 

This is exactly the same kind of attack I spoke of at least a year ago, about the risks of RF chips (the key) and all it takes to read them from a distance is a stronger reader (the car). No one took me serious then. This same type of tool can be used to read every RF chip within it's extended range, including medical RF chips with your entire medical records attached. It means being able to ID everyone in a crowd or at a gun show who has such a "medical device", (implant). This defeats HIPAA, and is a major threat to personal privacy. Even more so than Googleglass. (Disguises do not work with RF chips)

 

As I said, this works on proximity keys/passive keys. ( Passive Key Entry System PKES)(these are RF chips)

 

@kellory
Yes I know. I was an automotive design engineer for 45 years until I retired last October. ~34 years designing power trains (engines, transmissions and carriers) and 11 years forced induction systems.
That is why I use a key in the Corvette. As it is between 97 and 99, a lot of "functions" can be disabled through the DIC. From 2000 on, one needs a a scan tool to do the same.

 

My concern, is the tech is not limited to car theft, but ID theft, and privacy violations. You might as well give up the Fifth Amendment, if someone can download your entire medical history, your tax records, your voting history, and anything else locked to your ID. (WITHOUT Your consent). No input from you required. And the more systems and databases are linked, the greater the risk of data mining, ID theft, and the theft of your privacy.

 

OMG! Men are so visual.

They just never stop!

(So, can I get a rubbing of that key?)

 

@kellory
ID theft is another avenue completely.

My baby with over 600 RWHP (at the tires not the flywheel) is my concern as far a being stolen. Or in the scheme of this thread. The average person has no clue their locked vehicle can be unlocked or stolen.

I bought a cheap car because no one buys a car with an engine that doesn't work. I rebuilt the engine so I have a serious amount of sweat equity in the car. I'm a gear head and been one since I've been 16 y/o.

ID theft is a completely different subject than defeating key less entry and remote starting in Pass Car/light truck applications.

 

I work with RF chips, and the potential for abuse I see is staggering. If you want to keep the subject to car theft and such, so be it, but the same tool will unlock much more then you door locks.

 

The thread was about theft and local crimes..

Where ID theft came from, medical records etc. came from is beyond me.

 

Same tool is used for both types of theft.
Edit: Tikka, you are suffering from tunnel vision, seeing only the car theft aspect of this tool. The same type of tool can do much more serious and lasting harm. But if you can't see it, I'm . (Thread unwatched)

 

In some respects that is true. Opening a car door to steal what is inside or the vehicle is a bit different than cleaning out one's bank account.

 

No sir, it is not. The RF chip impersonates you.

 

Back to identity theft?

 

I try to get mom to be more careful about what she does, because she is rather careless about such things. I mean a while back, when some guy at the bus station was asking for a couple bucks for new year's goodie, she pulled all the money she had in her pocket, which included the $300 to pay the power bill to give him a couple bucks. Her idea of 'protection' was saying all that money was for the power bill, and she can't spare anything more than what she gave him. Nothing happened, because the bus driver didn't leave until he did, but that's the typical logic my mother has about self-defense. I have to be extra vigilant to make up for her carelessness. She did lose a couple hundred at a gas station once because she wasn't careful with her money, though seriously, given her gambling issues at the time, I think she just blew it at the nearby casino and forgot.

 

Yeah, Klamoya does not deserve anyone's money.