The moron patrol alive and well in your local school

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by CATO, Feb 4, 2013.


  1. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    I think the goal here is to beat our children into submission that the mere thought of a gun is bad and if you look at a picture, draw a picture, depict the possession of, or say anything to do with a gun will result in public shaming and disciplinary action. In another generation, the concept of "gun" will be so verboten that kids whose parents/grandparents knew what such a thing was will refer to it as "that which cannot be mentioned." Much like being called a racist today . . . kids of the future will be scared to delve into the topic of "gun."

    We often talk of voting people out of office because of their views, yet, we never put teachers or the school board under the same moronoscope. These are the people that pass a lot of left-wing values on to our kids while we are at work. Yes, yes, I know . . . "homeschool" them! you chant. Let's just agree that some people can't cut their pay in half and get back to the issue of morons in our schools.

    As with journalists--with their need to insert their own left-wingery into every news story, many teachers nowadays seem compelled to pass their left-leaning values on to kids, probably due in large part to the perception that they, the teacher, are much more knowledgeable than the kids' parents. To debate an issue with a teachers usually ends up with the parent being called some "ist" lunatic.

    Enough is enough: engage your teachers and school board. Tell them you're watching.

    I doubt very seriously if I would've made it through school today: I don't think there was a week that went by that I didn't have a Sgt. Rock comic or the Unknown Soldier and spent many idle hours drawing planes, tanks, and soldiers. Today . . . that's an expulsion young man!

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    Florence student suspended over picture of gun

    FLORENCE, AZ - A high school student in Florence said he has been suspended because of a picture of a gun.
    Daniel McClaine Jr., a freshman at Poston Butte High School, said he saved the picture as his desktop background on his school-issued computer.
    A teacher noticed it and turned him in.
    The picture shows an AK-47 on top of a flag.
    McClaine said the school initially suspended him for three days Friday.
    Since the laptop belongs to the school, the district policy states students are prohibited from “sending or displaying offensive messages or pictures,” and cannot access, send, create or forward pictures that are considered “harassing, threatening, or illegal.”
    McClaine said he read the guidelines but does not consider the picture threatening to anyone.
    “This gun wallpaper does not show anything that’s violent. It's not showing anybody getting shot in any way. It's just a picture of a gun. It's nothing -- nobody getting shot, nobody getting it pointed at them, it's nothing,” said McClaine.
    McClaine said the gun is not his. He’s interested in joining the military and said he found it on the internet.
    Dana Hawman, a spokesperson for the Florence Unified School District, released the following statement:

    Although we cannot specifically discuss student discipline, we can certainly agree that violence in schools is a sensitive and timely issue. Students, parents and staff are on edge, and the daily news delivers more reasons for caution. All of us must work together to protect our kids and to cultivate an environment that is conducive to learning.
    Daniel’s father said after ABC15 contacted the school, the administration backed down and will let his son return to school on Monday instead of Wednesday.
    “To me it's ridiculous. Three days for a picture? It wasn't like he was standing in front of the school holding the gun,” said Daniel McClaine Sr. “He should have got a warning. He shouldn't have ever been suspended. Not for something so frivolous.”
     
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  2. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    He shouldn't even have received a warning. How is a picture of a piece of hardware illegal, threatening, harassing, or offensive? That school administration oughta pull its collective cranium out of its collective rectal pore.

    Suppose it was a chainsaw, with or without blood on it.
     
  3. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Wonder what they would "Say" about a Hammer & Sickle ... as they are Tools as well.....
     
  4. oldawg

    oldawg Monkey+++

    Were they to drive onto my highschool parking lot circa 1963, graduating class of 35, we wouldn't have this problem today. They would all be dead from seizures and heart attacks at the sight of every pick up rear window. Students and teachers both.
     
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  5. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Meh....so much dander and so little proportion...on all sides.

    As a teenager, in senior highschool I had an abiding obsession with military history. I once decorated an exercise book (note book) with a self drawn picture of a German WWII Teller Mine 42 landmine, (I was reading about the Normandy D-Day landings at the time). My teacher (English Lit) took exception to it, and sent me to the English master for six strokes of the cane. (three strokes on each hand...I wasn't sure whether it was becasuse of my lack of artistry...or that exercise books (that I paid for and owned) should not be graffitied).

    Without a doubt the cane sure stung...and I can't recall what was so particularly offensive to the teacher's sensitivities whether it was non conformism? Insubordination? lack of regard for my own property? or that it would encourage others to decorate their unblemished book covers with wildly subversive anti-war propaganda...I don't know...it never cured me of non conformism, nor insubordination on occasion, and I still retain an abiding interest in military history.

    As for books, I treat them with a little more respect these days.

    The problem as I see it is an ambiguous rule that is open to arbitrary interpretation both by teachers and students. I think that three days suspension was a little bit over reactive and disproportional, if it could be actually considered a punishment by the student (three days uninterrupted opportunity to play X-Box first person shooter games or spend time online sating his lust for Winchester, Remmington and Colt gun porn.) The suspension would seem an exercise in highly reactive @rse covering. The harm done to the student is not so much three days of freedom from school tyranny, but the stigma attached to the suspension...a sensitive boy, brooding on the injustice of it, may just take to watching re-runs of If If - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.... , and start polishing his collection of nerf guns...just obsessing, thinking, and planning for his chance of revenge and retribution!!!

     
  6. fmhuff

    fmhuff Monkey+++

    My Highschooler who goes to a Christian school here in Kalispell, has a quite different experience. The school even raffled off a high end AR to make money for the school, sponsored a pistol/rifle shooting competition and his class went out on a field trip to one of the local gun makers shops last week. He's allowed to carry a folding knife as long as he uses it responsibly. Quite a difference from most public schools.
     
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  7. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

  8. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    That is just NUTS.... Someone needs to knock some Common Sense into those Administrators... I would be down there with a Baseball Bat, and screaming Bloody Murder, if my kid went to that school.... Then I would be getting a Recall Petition going for the WHOLE SCHOOL BOARD... They are just NUTS....
     
  9. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Well I guess imaginary light sabres are out too....who is going to be able to thwart the Evil Empire without one??? Woe is the Rebel Alliance!!
     
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  10. oldawg

    oldawg Monkey+++

    Maybe said in jest Chell but probably true. Another kid is facing suspension for having a gun screensaver. The evil empire is winning hands down right now.
     
  11. gasman28110

    gasman28110 Monkey+

    We need to take our schools and country back......if it's not too late.
     
  12. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    You do that at the Ballot BOX, and no where else.....
     
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  13. Cruisin Sloth

    Cruisin Sloth Special & Slow

  14. Jaybird

    Jaybird Monkey+

    Gee, I must have reacting incorrectly last year. I had a boy at church bring me a "bullet" he found outside. It appeared to be a stand-off for a PC board or something and had a plastic tip to it. I thanked him, and later tossed it. Guess I should have called the sheriff and got BATF or some super group like that to check it out.

    If only common sense was common.
     
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