Pagosa Springs, CO. Since you are such an expert dart flinger, why bother with .30? I could take an elk a year with 22lr. NO animal can keep even WALKING, constantly,much less running. they can't feed themselver or drink, they'd burn more calories than they could take in, and die in a few days. Just because you are clueless about survival poaching doesn't mean that everyone is. A 223 to the head will drop an elk or a grizzly bear like a rock. In the snow, you follow a wounded elk easily. Aim at the neck, if all you have is a 223. Most dogs easily follow a blood trail. Sport hunting has NOTHING to do with survival foraging.