the Sovereign American

Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by beast, Jul 1, 2011.


  1. beast

    beast backwoodsman

    i think that would be a good name for a new party
    i think the name speaks loudly in regards to ideals
    we definitely are no longer sovereign in our own homes
    big brother has us by the short hairs and pullin us all in deeper

    if this was to be a political party, what would all of you suggest
    in the way of platform and ideology?
     
  2. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    Beast,

    I love the idea but alas, it is probably too late.
    I think if a party and a candidate actually had a chance of succeeding, well, TPTB would not let it stand.

    I'd actually like to see the states regain their strength and the fed govt to be scaled way way back.

    I'd like to see a party that backed the gold standard

    Someone that supported states rights rather than abdicating rights to the idiots in DC

    Someone that ran on dissolving the FED

    Bringing our boys and girls back from the sand box

    I'm sure there are a lot more ideas that others have but here is my start.
     
  3. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Here's my suggestion:

    Get rid of the politicians.
     
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  4. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    Yeah, and what Broker said.[beer]
     
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  5. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Adventure Riding Monkey Founding Member

    Ban lawyers from being politicians. A Government "Of the People" should have members from The People, not from the various legal universities.......
    Use the lawyers as TOOLS of Government, not the Government itself. :rolleyes:
     
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  6. Hispeedal2

    Hispeedal2 Nay Sayer

    A third party doesn't have to be big enough to win... take the George Wallace approach. You just have to be big enough to tie up the electoral college and cause the other 2 major parties to bend to your will and then hand over the presidency. Of course, excellent follow through is imperative in this. A third party could win House seats easy enough (happens all the time). The Senate is tougher, but not unheard of.
     
  7. beast

    beast backwoodsman

    so why dont we get people together and make a party
    set down our own rules, platform and agenda
     
  8. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    that is what the local tea parties are trying to do. Do an online search for them. Almost every state, major city, and county has them and they are growing. I have vowed to stop my personal insanity. ie; voting for the lesser evil instead of throwing my vote away voting for the independent with no chance that most fills my needs. The independent will most likely now get my vote
     
  9. beast

    beast backwoodsman

    what ive seen of the tea party so far is supporting one of the mainstream candidates
    another lesser of 2 evils
    like you i dont wanna vote that way any more
     
  10. radpug

    radpug Monkey+

    Its past time for a Nationalist Party.

    The problem is the rules in all 50 states are set up for our 2
    Party systems. This makes fielding independents almost impossibility
    To get on a ballet, hence they have to clear hurdles that the 2
    Major party’s do not. That is the rub it isn’t a level playing field.

    We need election reforms which empowers the people to field different
    People. That is not going to happen.
    Add to that the money that is spent electing of our elected officials.

    There not going to be any change, more the same.
     
  11. radpug

    radpug Monkey+

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    I find it ironic that even the Republicans were bashing the tea party until
    It help get some of them elected.
    The tea party needs to pull the rug out and work for becoming some thing other than a Republicans voting block.
     
  12. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    I see the the majority of tea party candidates in fighting with the repubs.
    splitting the republican vote
    which creates a democratic win.
    and i for one dont want to see another 4 years of obamanutz running the dollar down to zero.[violin]
     
  13. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    I fully understand what you are saying, but do you really believe that any Republican or Democrat is going to give a flying firetruck about anything except Money, Power, and his Handlers Influence on how and what he or she does. Are you ready for another Bush? Certainly you don't believe the major two party system is anything but corrupt? We have to break the cycle or let the SOB's break the system, as well as the proverbial camels back with that last intolerable act. Then and only then will there be change for the better. Better to let Lord Obummer get reelected one more time, so there is absolutely no doubt in every freakin Koolaid drinking democratic voting idiots mind that, "maybe, just maybe we were wrong, and there is something better. Republicans are only the flip side of the same damn coin. Do what ever your heart tells you you have to, but for me there has to be an independent party candidate for me to hitch my wagon to. No more Republicans or democrats for this voter. jmho
     
  14. beast

    beast backwoodsman

    started this same discussion in another board
    it seems to be an excuse for name calling and childish behavior there
    plus one of the posters seems to think we need less democracy
    let the elite run things so the ignorant greedy masses cant demand his wealth
    sometimes i wonder where peoples heads are or up whos a$$
     
  15. Falcon15

    Falcon15 Falco Peregrinus

    And we all know that MOST lawyers are TOOLS.
     
  16. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    This board, was only my second board ever. There is no way you can compare this board to any other on an even level. This board is unique and different in a very good way! I have joined a few other boards where I mostly lurk. This is home, and where I am comfortable. This board is the best. not jmho I am sure!
     
  17. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    Tac,

    I am so with you. I've been voting independant since my very first vote when i turned 18. I've wanted a change for over 20 years. I thought that the D or R after their names stood for (R)apist or (D)ebaucher. My bad.

    Now we have Rhinos and Teabaggers added into the mix.

    just different sides of the same trick coin.

    I'm thinking that after the upcoming collapse of our society, we will break out the constitution and bill of rights and do a better job the second time around.

    Right now, we have the best government that money can buy. Just ask the lobbyists, I'll wager that they will agree!
    [beer]
     
  18. beast

    beast backwoodsman

    this board is definitely a step up from the other one
    but, there are some good people on the other ones that havent found their way here yet
     
  19. beast

    beast backwoodsman

    lol, those names seem to fit real well tho
     
  20. radpug

    radpug Monkey+

    Ross for Bosss,

    Yes i did vote for him.......
     
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