The tyranny of the minor groups

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ghrit, Mar 23, 2017.


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How many genders are there?

Poll closed May 23, 2017.
  1. One – there is no reason why boys and girls should be treated differently socially or otherwise.

    3 vote(s)
    10.7%
  2. Two – God made boys and girls different for a reason, and require different societal treatments.

    25 vote(s)
    89.3%
  3. Three or more - Everyone gets its own classification and treatment.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    One of the things that staff is supposed to do is generate new topics for discussion. We fall prey to the idea that everything survival or prep related has been cussed and discussed to a fine edge, and the only thing that needs to be done is review the existing threads and bring them up to date if there has been new information, making it somewhat difficult to pull something out of thin air. Here on the monkey, while our emphasis has always been on self reliance and preparations, we do not restrict the discussions to those rather limiting topics. (But we like it when a thread stays on topic, the life of a staffie is much easier when things go that way. It’s difficult guiding a pride of cats back on track.) The world goes on, slithering from day to day with its day to day aggravations and rewards..

    OK, nuffa dat. One of the things that society is grappling over these days is all the minor groupings of individuals that seem to think they are special, and need special treatment for their particular special feature, be it sex, color, religion or whatever the flavor of specialization is this week. These minor groups are loud, obnoxious, weepy, in-your-face about how they need something that society lacks and owes them for imaginary (or even real) wrongs perpetrated in the past. The distressing part is that society in general caves in rather than telling them to siddown, shuddup, and adapt to norms rather than levering the majority to adapt to any particular non majority aberration.

    So this poll, just because I’m currently annoyed with the subject. We could as easily ask how many colors are there among humanoids as in white vs. all others (par ex., black, brown, red or green) or how many religions as in Christian vs. all others (par ex., Mohammedanism, Buddism, Jain, Shinto, whatever) to make the point. I recently saw an article, a blog really, in one or another of the popular publications suggesting that there are at least a dozen ways in which an individual can classify (whatever)self sexually. Most of these classifications defy reason or understanding unless you happen to be one of those minority species (or create one that you define for yourself) and require that society adapt to your specialty of life. Well, maybe not adapt, but recognize and acknowledge. Uv cuss, with legal recognition and acknowledgement comes the need for formally labeling the doors that the special person can use (or that others MUST NOT) just to make damn sure that the rest of society knows that the special person exists. (Must not forget the plethora of changes and expenses that will be needed on dot gov forms.) In other words, make special accommodations for the g-d snowflake. Thus, the majority is tyrannized by minor groups. (Here we mention "safe rooms", "prayer rooms" and the like required by civil (say university) rule as de facto recognition of special required treatment.)

    NB: I can spell muslim, but I’m well enough convinced that some minor (ethnic) group didn’t like Mohammedanism because they couldn’t spell it. Yep, that’s me rebelling against the special interest.

    OK, pick your pick and let fly your rant.
     
  2. GrayGhost

    GrayGhost Monkey++

    1. You are either a male or female.
    2. Mind your own damn business.
    3. Shut your pie-hole...we're tired of the whining.
    4. Live, and let live.
     
  3. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Looking back now that the thread has its head up, I realize that the post and poll are apt to produce predictable result among the Monkey population. We know that there are some slightly left leaning individual members, but please, if you are among that group, give an honest answer. There is no need to self identify in the thread or what you selected in the poll. I'm not even sure what the final tally will tell us, since there is no way to correct for bias.
     
  4. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor Site Supporter+

    Nah I ain't jumping in this. Sexual freedom to do as one pleases or sexual confusion ain't up to you or me to decide. It also is not up to the Federal Government to meddle with if you believe in the Constitution like I do. Once upon a time Sodomy was pretty much illegal in any state of the USA. The Government is not needed in the nations bedrooms. Those laws have pretty much went by the wayside as they should for the reason I stated above. Even in states where it still exists it is largely ignored or selectively enforced. Selective enforcement is a tyrannical tool and unacceptable. Quite frankly I could care less what the fudge packers, pickle suckers, or carpet munchers do or don't do as long as they leave me and mine alone, and don't try to force someone into doing something they are not comfortable or agreeable to. If little jimmy wants to take estrogen to seek out his female side and or buy fake boobs, why should I care if I don't have to pay for any part of it. I guess it comes down to you should have a say as to what your illegally stolen tax dollars are spent on.
     
  5. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    Somebody explain to me why, if truly "equal", men and women should be treated differently by society. Yes, there are differences between men and women...but I am not clear why that requires one to be treated differently than another.
     
  6. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

  7. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    I have too many of my own problems to worry about what any number of adults to behind closed doors so long as they are all:
    • Humans
    • Adults
    • Consenting
    • Nobody gets killed
    All of the non-traditional genders and partnerships are a sign that humanity has it so good that we are bored enough to entertain such things; If Jimmy was doing subsistence farming and having to periodically dodge bullets while lugging water from the nearby spring he would be less likely to wonder what it would be like to have boobs and long fingernails and if, in fact, he is a lesbian.

    Having things this good are usually followed by having things go really, really bad: Rome, Babylon, etc.. The question is how long the good times can roll before the train goes off the tracks. It doesn't take the wrath of God to destroy a civilization, it merely takes people to embrace decadence.
     
  8. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

    There are 2 different genders BUT we should be treated equally by society. You are a female and want to join the infantry you need to meet the exact same physical standards as a guys. Getting divorced and want custody of the kids, gender of the parent does not matter. Better provider gets the kids. So, you need another button on your survey. Yes, there are 2 genders and we do have biological differences BUT we should be treated the same in society. At work I want to be treated exactly how male engineers are treated. My gender is secondary to my occupation at work.

    Now whether it is OK for some dude to "feel like a woman" is another thing. He can have his wang chopped off and take some hormones but genetically he will always be a he. Personally as long as there are good locking doors on the stall I don't care if he uses the ladies room. I agree with Tac, as long as I don't have to pay for it with my tax money do what you gotta do.
    This issue is not easily broken down into 3 answers.
     
  9. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    OK, see ya in the locker room --
     
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  10. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    The blade cuts both ways...
     
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  11. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Exactly the point --- The question is, in this case, exactly how equal do you want to be?
     
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  12. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    Why not? You ain't scared of boobies and coochies, are ya?

    That is the $64 question. Funny how many pine for "equality" until they find out what it really means. ;)
     
  13. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    LOL! You are poking @ghrit. If you want things to 100% equal well it cannot be because humans are all different. Each one of us is different yet we are equal. People are born male or female, yet some are born with both male and female sex organs. Wow, we could stretch it and say that a hermaphrodite is truly an equal person.
     
  14. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    Equality is great in theory...but unfortunately we are not a perfect species. In practice, our individual faults, fears and foibles are why society has rules to treat genders differently.

    Just one example...for some males if a female isn't totally covered up, they can't control the urges of their lil one-eyed monsters and behave badly, so society tries to prevent exposure of a woman's body to varying degrees. Thus women are forced to dress "appropriately". By the same token, apparently some women can't control themselves at the sight of Mr. Winky, so us guys gotta keep him hidden away.
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2017
  15. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    Respect should be earn it is not a right.
    Defiance for what one is made is a pathetic reflection on the state of humanity.
    I have no argument for those born with unusual abnormalities ,however they should not be celebrated for the abnormality, but earn respect like EVERY ONE ELSE.
    Be it gender or race ,these have been over compensated, to the degree that they believe them selves better than every one else.
    Liberals a democrats have seen to this abuse and encourage it.
    In the end, man will be judged by what God thinks , not what the majority of man thinks.
    Unlike Allah , God of heaven deals in truth, not lies.
    Men dislike to retain the idea they are accountable to God , so they resist Him, and choose the approval of the rebellious to identify with, believing that a crowd has a vote , hoping lies and excuses will buy them mercy, for their rebellion.
    Jesus said it , the way to destruction is a wide road, many there be which go in there at, but the way to the kingdom of God is narrow and FEW there be that find it.
    I would add very few.
    The church began it's down fall at the first compromise with sin , ignoring the things Jesus taught, turning to men teachers and bending Jesus' word to fit them.

    As for the whims of society , reliable as a wineo .
     
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  16. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    :lol: Included in the three or more category ---
     
  17. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grudge Monkey

    There are only 2 genders, PERIOD! As God, or nature intended. With in those 2 genders are roles that we each are to fulfill. The male of the species has his duties as a husband and father, and the female of the species has her role as mother and wife! How you choose to live your life with in those roles is entirely up to each person, and it shouldn't fall to an authority such as the Gov, or Church to decide if, and how you fit in the big picture! 3M-TA3 made a great point, and how far we sand bag in the face of the coming storm is up to us! When we break away from the traditional defining roles of Male and Female,when we take equality to a whole different level, we are bound to have problems. When we allow authority to over step it's powers by creating a class, or redefining the roles, we are in BIG TROUBLE! All life on this little planet of ours is defined by the roles of the 2 sexes, has been since time began, only in humans do we ever have a problem when we break those rules! God Help Us, and God help the fool that walks into the ladies room with ill intent on "HIS" mind!!!
     
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  18. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

    As long as the stalls have full length doors that lock and separate showers, sure! You can have the stall beside mine. They ymca i go to has male and female locker rooms each with their own shower and changing area. There are also unisex individual shower/changing rooms too
     
  19. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    FYI, when I first read the threat title I thought it was going to be about some kind of "children of the corn" group getting all uppity.
     
  20. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    You are in the ballpark. The "fact" of equality does not exist. Take @mysterymet that wants locker room stalls as a means of isolating an inequality, providing a special, if you will, place to not be seen because in fact there IS an inequality that would be obvious. (I said "see" you in the locker room as literally "see".)

    Don't misunderstand me here. Viva la differance. And, if anyone thinks I'm advocating for total equality, take your cranium out of your poop chute. What I'm doing is pointing out that these brain dead branches of "humanity" are yanking equality on it's tush in the name of worshiping diversity and its need for special treatment, of being elevated to a separate class of untouchable, unassailable privilege.
     
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