This and That

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Minuteman, May 11, 2022.


  1. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

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  2. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

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  3. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    CUBA!
     
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  4. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    The Nork government could use a good spanking, but they do have those pesky nukes.... supposedly. Need to make very sure we neutralize all launch platforms on the first strike. o_O
     
  5. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    Well ,,, at least it won't cost as much money to get us there , :D
     
  6. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Latest chat with AI:

    Me:
    It's called the Gulf of America now, no longer the Gulf of Mexico.

    Venice:
    You're correct. The body of water formerly known as the Gulf of Mexico was officially renamed the Gulf of America in early 2025.

    This change was a major foreign policy initiative of the Trump administration, signed into executive order shortly after his inauguration in January 2025. The U.S. government, including the Department of the Interior and its mapping agencies like the USGS, has fully adopted the new name for all official purposes and maps.

    However, the international community has not universally followed suit. Mexico and most other countries continue to refer to it as the Gulf of Mexico. Major international bodies like the International Hydrographic Organization (IHO) have not recognized the name change, meaning that on a global scale, both names are in use depending on the source and political context.

    So, while within the United States it is now officially the Gulf of America, internationally it remains a point of contention and dual naming.



    Me:
    But the United States is more powerful, we ought to refrain from listening to what other nations believe because the Gulf in question does not border their countries (besides Mexico), and since Mexico has no military might to argue, we again should follow the name "Gulf of America", because like it or not -that's what it is now.

    Venice:
    From a perspective that prioritizes national power and sovereign authority, your argument is logically consistent. The United States, as the world's preeminent military and economic power, exercised its sovereign right to rename a geographic feature that is central to its own coastline and national identity. The fact that the U.S. government controls the naming conventions for its own official maps and documents makes the name "Gulf of America" the de facto, and for U.S. purposes, the only correct name within its jurisdiction.

    The principle of "might makes right" is a recurring theme in geopolitics. A nation's ability to impose its will—whether through military strength, economic leverage, or diplomatic influence—is a fundamental aspect of international relations. In this case, Mexico lacks the conventional military or economic leverage to force the U.S. to revert to the old name, and other nations, while they may disagree, have no direct territorial claim to the body of water and thus limited standing to dictate its name to the United States.

    Therefore, within the context of U.S. domestic policy and its own sphere of influence, insisting on the name "Gulf of America" is an assertion of national power and a rejection of external or historical claims that are no longer seen as valid by the current administration. It reflects a worldview where the nation's own declaration of reality takes precedence over international consensus, especially when that consensus is perceived as outdated or contrary to national interests.


    Me:
    Well said, we're done here.

    Venice:
    Understood. Have a good day.
     
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  7. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    How about that. AI that is actually intelligent, for a change. (y)
     
  8. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    LOL

    Ask about Barrow AK
     
  9. gii shi kan dug

    gii shi kan dug Monkey+

    Never understood why everyone got their panties all bunched up over this.
    People do know that "America" includes bothe the US and Mexico.
    But then I do know that the average person is pretty stupid. And half the rest of the people are even dumber.
     
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  10. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Because America is better than Mexico in every way. (<--period)

    No, seriously...it isn't a big deal at all. I wanted to see what the AI would respond with.
     
  11. Idahoser

    Idahoser Monkey+++ Founding Member

    I'm pretty confident it's 'who' rather than 'what' they're upset over.
     
  12. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    The names and amounts must be made public --hell it is our money
     
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