Everywhere I turn around, people are asking for ID, more info than I care to give and other personal stuff. CLyde and I have made it a kind of game in trying to remove ourselved from the Consumer Databases and such. Rule #1 Never again, Use your name and your Physical Address on a non-govt form again If you are subscribing to a magazine, Use a Made up Company for the name box. Like RJS Services or something. I found Clyde after 12 years by magazine subs...... Is it Lying? look at it this way, It's a lie if you intend harm or fraud. You are not required by law to give a Real name for a magazine subscription. Much more on this later. Clyde?