Tim Cook Opposes Order for Apple to Unlock iPhone

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Garand69, Feb 17, 2016.


  1. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    The real issue is, getting to the encrypted data, on the iPhone, first.... If you can't even get it to fire up and boot the OS, YOU CAN't get to goodies inside....also remember that there is no HardDrive to pull out, and stick in a computer that you can control... All Memory is Soldered inside, and if you make a single mistake, disassembling the device, it goes into self-Nuke mode, and it wipes everything, and you don't even know you messed up... That is. Why the FBI needs Apple, to do their thing... FIRST... and clear the way, and provide a PATH, into the hardware... That doesn't set off the Nuke Option... Apple would have to write all this, and then test it, and once they prove it can be done, everyone in the world will be trying to duplicate the Hack....
     
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  2. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    Apple has the master key or they could not update it. The phone's encryption would stop them cold. Anytime Apple chooses, they can remote into an iPhone and update its firmware.The most important part of any OS is its firmware.

    The firmware controls all the features; Apple could easily change the lock out value from XX to unlimited tries or disable it entirely. That is what it does.

    Although there are limits based on processor architecture, the same as a BIOS chip on a motherboard; it is the control of the OS. Apple can turn off the encryption or the lock out values and that is how it works. Firmware access controls everything from basic baloney to the highest levels, period.
    My hope is that Apple honors the court order before the idiots in Congress say they and Android must furnish LE the master key. Simply said what good is Google's 2048 bit encryption if the FBI has the key? No encryption is secure if someone holds the master key.
     
  3. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Apple does NOT have a Remote IOS Upgrade path into their iDevices.... The owner MUST initiate any IOS Update, AS Well as Approve the Installation after the Update is Downloaded into the iDevice... I don't know where you are getting your Information, but apparently you have never owned an iDevice, and run thru the IOS UpDate Process... I have had iPods, iPads, iPhones, and iTouch.... And they ALL USE THE SAME IOS Update Path... Currently my iPad Retina, & iPhone5s are running IOS 9.2.1 which uses both the 4 Digit, and 6 Digit Security Entry System... And the iPhone5s, uses the FingerPrint Technology as well, as part of the Security Entry System.....
     
  4. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    All smoke and mirrors.


    The phone was not owned by the Perp, it was owned by his employer.
     
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  5. T. Riley

    T. Riley Monkey+++

    This level of privacy did not exist before this version of the IPhone and yet we demand it now and defend our right to it even though we are good law abiding citizens and as long as we are, have no need for it. And, all the while the evil among us use it more and more to kill us. I would suggest that if one of old Tim's loved ones had been slaughtered in this attack he would have offered to unlock the phone. As it is, terrorist can continue to use the technology secure in the knowledge Apple, Facebook and Twitter will continue to defend their right to do so. I for one don't give a crap about Apple's moral or financial reasons for not doing so. That one phone should be unlocked and returned to the Feds.
     
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  6. Garand69

    Garand69 Monkey++

    That level of privacy certainly did exist, just not on cell phones. Why should an advancement in technology, say going from landline to cell phone, have to come with a mandatory loss in privacy??

    The intel on that phone if time sensitive is already useless. What I find ridiculous is that just yesterday they served a search warrant on his brother. Why so long?? The government already has the ability to learn every number that phone has called, and every number that that phone has received a call from, what more do you need? How many search warrants have been served on his inner circle of freinds?

    As long as the government defines who is the terrorist, using the word "Terrorist" to justify any action of the government has and will continue to lead us down a very dangerous path.
     
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  7. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

  8. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

  9. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Come on, now. We all knew how this would end up one day.
    Everywhere we look, tyranny runs rampant.
    It's only a matter of time.
     
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  10. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    @whynot
    Ditto.

    The San Bernardino County Department of Public Health reset the password and apparently doesn't know it?

    This is becoming a soap opera...
     
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