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Time to take the red pill folks!

Discussion in 'Tin Foil Hat Lounge' started by thepatriot1976, Jun 24, 2008.

  1. thepatriot1976

    thepatriot1976 Resigned Membership

    This is for those that aren't sure about the existence of the New World Order and the Globalist agenda. I posted a short video clip of his new world order speech and yes I am aware that he gave it during his Iraq speech. It doesn't matter he still said it no matter what the main point of the speech was. To be fair the entire speech he gave is posted below. Don't take his rhetoric lightly read a little deeper and really think harder about everything he is trying to say. See if you are really only getting that he just wants to cooperate with foreign nations but more of a long desired dream to unite us globally. Also keep in mind that they have already united Europe in a Union and are trying to do the same with Asia and Africa. Now keep in mind current treaties that we have signed with Canada and Mexico (hint S.P.P. http://www.spp.gov/, http://www.stopspp.org/) and start putting things together for yourself or refuse to leave your comfort zone and stay in the Matrix!

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    We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations a new world order -- a world where the rule of law, not the law of the jungle, governs the conduct of nations. When we are successful -- and we will be -- we have a real chance at this new world order, an order in which a credible United Nations can use its peacekeeping role to fulfill the promise and vision of the U.N.'s founders.

    Q1: Who were these founders (Illuminati members maybe) and what was their vision.(Could it be a world government maybe?) hmmm... makes you wonder.

    Q2: The rule of law, not the rule of the jungle? (so basically our future generations are going to be subjected to a very lawful police state?)

    Q3:The U.N. law will be the law of the land not our constitution?How can their be laws that govern nations if the United Nations isn't the one in total control of all nations, do you have to abide by U.N. laws at your house right now?The E.U. has their own countries too but are joined together under laws of their Union. You don't have to take away your nations name to be a one world government and I don't think they intend to do that anyways, but does it matter what your countries name is called if you still live under law from a International power group, sounds like a One World government to me folks!( Think about this one kids)

    Q4: Use it's peacekeeping role to fulfill the promise and vision of the U.N. founders? Wow people let's think this one through carefully, Could it mean to peace keep against us all that will not be very peaceful when they force their "promise and vision" on us? Remember he promised that they will be successful (resistance is futile)

    Just 2 hours ago, allied air forces began an attack on military targets in Iraq and Kuwait. These attacks continue as I speak. Ground forces are not engaged.
    This conflict started August 2nd when the dictator of Iraq invaded a small and helpless neighbor. Kuwait -- a member of the Arab League and a member of the United Nations -- was crushed; its people, brutalized. Five months ago, Saddam Hussein started this cruel war against Kuwait. Tonight, the battle has been joined.
    This military action, taken in accord with United Nations resolutions and with the consent of the United States Congress, follows months of constant and virtually endless diplomatic activity on the part of the United Nations, the United States, and many, many other countries. Arab leaders sought what became known as an Arab solution, only to conclude that Saddam Hussein was unwilling to leave Kuwait. Others traveled to Baghdad in a variety of efforts to restore peace and justice. Our Secretary of State, James Baker, held an historic meeting in Geneva, only to be totally rebuffed. This past weekend, in a last-ditch effort, the Secretary-General of the United Nations went to the Middle East with peace in his heart -- his second such mission. And he came back from Baghdad with no progress at all in getting Saddam Hussein to withdraw from Kuwait.
    Now the 28 countries with forces in the Gulf area have exhausted all reasonable efforts to reach a peaceful resolution -- have no choice but to drive Saddam from Kuwait by force. We will not fail.
    As I report to you, air attacks are underway against military targets in Iraq. We are determined to knock out Saddam Hussein's nuclear bomb potential. We will also destroy his chemical weapons facilities. Much of Saddam's artillery and tanks will be destroyed. Our operations are designed to best protect the lives of all the coalition forces by targeting Saddam's vast military arsenal. Initial reports from General Schwarzkopf are that our operations are proceeding according to plan.
    Our objectives are clear: Saddam Hussein's forces will leave Kuwait. The legitimate government of Kuwait will be restored to its rightful place, and Kuwait will once again be free. Iraq will eventually comply with all relevant United Nations resolutions, and then, when peace is restored, it is our hope that Iraq will live as a peaceful and cooperative member of the family of nations, thus enhancing the security and stability of the Gulf.
    Some may ask: Why act now? Why not wait? The answer is clear: The world could wait no longer. Sanctions, though having some effect, showed no signs of accomplishing their objective. Sanctions were tried for well over 5 months, and we and our allies concluded that sanctions alone would not force Saddam from Kuwait.
    While the world waited, Saddam Hussein systematically raped, pillaged, and plundered a tiny nation, no threat to his own. He subjected the people of Kuwait to unspeakable atrocities -- and among those maimed and murdered, innocent children.
    While the world waited, Saddam sought to add to the chemical weapons arsenal he now possesses, an infinitely more dangerous weapon of mass destruction -- a nuclear weapon. And while the world waited, while the world talked peace and withdrawal, Saddam Hussein dug in and moved massive forces into Kuwait.
    While the world waited, while Saddam stalled, more damage was being done to the fragile economies of the Third World, emerging democracies of Eastern Europe, to the entire world, including to our own economy.
    The United States, together with the United Nations, exhausted every means at our disposal to bring this crisis to a peaceful end. However, Saddam clearly felt that by stalling and threatening and defying the United Nations, he could weaken the forces arrayed against him.
    While the world waited, Saddam Hussein met every overture of peace with open contempt. While the world prayed for peace, Saddam prepared for war.
    I had hoped that when the United States Congress, in historic debate, took its resolute action, Saddam would realize he could not prevail and would move out of Kuwait in accord with the United Nation resolutions. He did not do that. Instead, he remained intransigent, certain that time was on his side.
    Saddam was warned over and over again to comply with the will of the United Nations: Leave Kuwait, or be driven out. Saddam has arrogantly rejected all warnings. Instead, he tried to make this a dispute between Iraq and the United States of America.
    Well, he failed. Tonight, 28 nations -- countries from 5 continents, Europe and Asia, Africa, and the Arab League -- have forces in the Gulf area standing shoulder to shoulder against Saddam Hussein. These countries had hoped the use of force could be avoided. Regrettably, we now believe that only force will make him leave.
    Prior to ordering our forces into battle, I instructed our military commanders to take every necessary step to prevail as quickly as possible, and with the greatest degree of protection possible for American and allied service men and women. I've told the American people before that this will not be another Vietnam, and I repeat this here tonight. Our troops will have the best possible support in the entire world, and they will not be asked to fight with one hand tied behind their back. I'm hopeful that this fighting will not go on for long and that casualties will be held to an absolute minimum.
    This is an historic moment. We have in this past year made great progress in ending the long era of conflict and cold war. We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations a new world order -- a world where the rule of law, not the law of the jungle, governs the conduct of nations. When we are successful -- and we will be -- we have a real chance at this new world order, an order in which a credible United Nations can use its peacekeeping role to fulfill the promise and vision of the U.N.'s founders.
    We have no argument with the people of Iraq. Indeed, for the innocents caught in this conflict, I pray for their safety. Our goal is not the conquest of Iraq. It is the liberation of Kuwait. It is my hope that somehow the Iraqi people can, even now, convince their dictator that he must lay down his arms, leave Kuwait, and let Iraq itself rejoin the family of peace-loving nations.
    Thomas Paine wrote many years ago: "These are the times that try men's souls.'' Those well-known words are so very true today. But even as planes of the multinational forces attack Iraq, I prefer to think of peace, not war. I am convinced not only that we will prevail but that out of the horror of combat will come the recognition that no nation can stand against a world united, no nation will be permitted to brutally assault its neighbor.
    No President can easily commit our sons and daughters to war. They are the Nation's finest. Ours is an all-volunteer force, magnificently trained, highly motivated. The troops know why they're there. And listen to what they say, for they've said it better than any President or Prime Minister ever could.
    Listen to Hollywood Huddleston, Marine lance corporal. He says, "Let's free these people, so we can go home and be free again.'' And he's right. The terrible crimes and tortures committed by Saddam's henchmen against the innocent people of Kuwait are an affront to mankind and a challenge to the freedom of all.
    Listen to one of our great officers out there, Marine Lieutenant General Walter Boomer. He said: "There are things worth fighting for. A world in which brutality and lawlessness are allowed to go unchecked isn't the kind of world we're going to want to live in.''
    Listen to Master Sergeant J.P. Kendall of the 82nd Airborne: "We're here for more than just the price of a gallon of gas. What we're doing is going to chart the future of the world for the next 100 years. It's better to deal with this guy now than 5 years from now.''
    And finally, we should all sit up and listen to Jackie Jones, an Army lieutenant, when she says, "If we let him get away with this, who knows what's going to be next?''
    I have called upon Hollywood and Walter and J.P. and Jackie and all their courageous comrades-in-arms to do what must be done. Tonight, America and the world are deeply grateful to them and to their families. And let me say to everyone listening or watching tonight: When the troops we've sent in finish their work, I am determined to bring them home as soon as possible.
    Tonight, as our forces fight, they and their families are in our prayers. May God bless each and every one of them, and the coalition forces at our side in the Gulf, and may He continue to bless our nation, the United States of America.
    George Bush - January 16, 1991

    Still not sure about the S.P.P. ? watch:
    CNN- Lou Dobbs
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    Did you hear that folks? Integrate North America
    by 2010!

    Sure bury your head and tell yourself that it's only about commerce. Why do you think they Aren't really doing anything about the border? Why do anything when they intend to open our border to a free flow of traffic anyways!

    Or check this out although you need about 30 free minutes to watch this one.
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    Here's your new currency the "Amero"!

    Now before you try to discredit me remember that these words were really Bush's and the media came from major news outlets not "conspiracy sites" or even Alex Jones although he does have some good ones too!

    Guys I told you I do my homework!

  2. thepatriot1976

    thepatriot1976 Resigned Membership

    If you want proof for anything I've said I have so much info I can post for you videos, news reports etc. I'd be glad to share with you!

    Heres one:

    The C.F.R. controls your media
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    Fox News promotes Verichip
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    The North American union
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    The Illuminati and the New World Order
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    Bush the fake Christian (all religions serve the same God) But Jesus said...
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    Lets start putting these things together people!
  3. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    For some reason I'm not seeing your video links (just white squares,) but after a "restart" perhaps. As my wife is quick to point out what can we do about it,????
  4. thepatriot1976

    thepatriot1976 Resigned Membership

    Who goes into war against an enemy that you didn't prepare to fight! (know your enemy rule#1 in any war)
    Waking others is essential to a successful outcome on our part. If others are aware then their is less people (sheeple) being led to the slaughter and as they say in france more "de la Résistance"
    Preparing yourself not only with supplies and contingency plans, but mentally as well. A lot easier to keep on mission when you understand why something is happening and have been preparing for it so you can work together instead of a last minute unprepared freak out situation where you got blindsided by all this and didn't understand exactly what was going on.
    To get yourself right with the Lord if you haven't yet folks. Because I truly believe that this is no turning point in history people but a very long process that has been carried out over many years and is now "coming home to roost" (bible prophesy about to be fulfilled)

    The problem there is that I believe that God is a God of common sense. He has done lot's of miraculous things in the past yes, but I feel he works more through the certain positioning and his people. He provides us the tools and resources so we can do for ourselves.

    Just think about it:
    He could have made an Aircraft carrier appear in front of Noah and said "Alright load them up" but NO, he said "Noah you need to build an Ark"!
    He uses his people to do his will. Did you stop to think that just maybe I might be doing his will right now by alerting all this and you might just be turning your back on his foreknowledge that he is trying to relate to you. (not saying that for sure but he does use his people folks it's possible)

    If you don't prepare for this then I guess you can wait for a rapture(that won't happen) and rely on the Lord to drop manna to you from the sky and put a magic shield around your house when they come for you.

    Or you could be prepared and maybe save your neighbors life too by waking him up as well!
  5. CBMS

    CBMS Looking for a safe place

    The problem is that most of the sheeple will accept this with open arms. It will present itself as economic stability, and a strong social support system. The problem will be us, the technophobes, the iconoclastic players in the modern world. We will be outsiders and most people will view us as the "bad guys" who need to be protected from themselves. We will not be allowed to live our lives as we please but rather we will be forced into our predetermined social place. Its depressing, but its almost unstopable.
  6. thepatriot1976

    thepatriot1976 Resigned Membership

    You and tango I can always count on you guys to have my back. Thanks bro and I whole heartedly agree with you. I believe that it's inevitable because revelation tells me so and the bible hasn't been wrong yet. All we Christians can do is prepare and ride it out and pray that we make it to the second coming at the end of the tribulation!

    Look at what Jesus said about the signs of the end of times:

    Luke 21:7-33

    "Teacher," they asked, "when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are about to take place?"
    8He replied: "Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he,' and, 'The time is near.' Do not follow them. 9When you hear of wars and revolutions, do not be frightened. These things must happen first, but the end will not come right away."
    10Then he said to them: "Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. 11There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.
    12"But before all this, they will lay hands on you and persecute you. They will deliver you to synagogues and prisons, and you will be brought before kings and governors, and all on account of my name. 13This will result in your being witnesses to them. 14But make up your mind not to worry beforehand how you will defend yourselves. 15For I will give you words and wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict. 16You will be betrayed even by parents, brothers, relatives and friends, and they will put some of you to death. 17All men will hate you because of me. 18But not a hair of your head will perish. 19By standing firm you will gain life.
    20"When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. 22For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written. 23How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people. 24They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
    25"There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. 27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near."

    29He told them this parable: "Look at the fig tree and all the trees. 30When they sprout leaves, you can see for yourselves and know that summer is near. 31Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near.
    32"I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.
    33Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

  7. CBMS

    CBMS Looking for a safe place

    Which edition are you reading from? KJB? or what?
    I do believe in God, however I do not believe in the church or the church that wrote the Bible. I dont believe God would punish people who were homosexual, or who ate pork, or who worked on the sabbath. Doesnt seem like him, or her. I believe God would reward those who did good acts in their lives. Like the ancient Egyptians said; "Have you found Joy in your Life" and "Have you brought Joy into the lives of others?" those two questions should be the drivers of your lives.
  8. thepatriot1976

    thepatriot1976 Resigned Membership


    first of all I don't go to a "Furch" Their all corrupt! They have lost the focus of true Christianity preach the standards of Paul. They are more concerned with face value christian living and appearing "Christian like", while their in the cover of darkness touching little boys or putting a needle in their arm. They have no Idea what it is to be a Christian. They are a carefully calculated schill of the evil one to divide and conquer.

    Do you really think that when we get to heaven, Jesus is going to stand on a platform and call out, "all right I need my Southern Baptists over here, Methodist where are you at, Lutherans come up to the front".

    It's all complete and utter Bull!@#$ carefully constructed by the evil one dating back to the Roman Empire and the Original Catholic Church(they are evil)

    Catholics call their pastors "Father", Jesus said you only have one father and he is in heaven, you only have one teacher and he be me!(not exact wording) They are more concerned about their rituals and beads etc. That's not Christianity.

    I am not a pastor, I haven't been to seminary(and I don't believe in it) I am just a man with a bible who has read it several times and has recieved a great understanding of what it really means through insight given me from our Lord.

    As for homo's, all sins are sin. If you do any sin it's the same as the homo. All people can accept the Lord and be forgiven. Though not wise to stay in your sin if you can help it. I obviously cuss, drink, gluteny sometimes covet and any other number of sins. I'm just as guilty as the homo, but with Jesus were forgiven by the grace of the Lord.

    Someone about now is gonna quote Paul to me and say naa aa Paul said drunks, homos liars etc will not enter the kingdom of heaven.

    Let's break down this cat Paul for a minute.
    1. He's not the Lord only a man.
    2. Jesus hung out with glutens,tax collectors,prostitutes etc. and he loved them.
    3. Paul comes on the scene way after the party was over and claims to be some super apostle, even the original diciples didn't believe him at first, but he was adamant about it and they were like alright If he really wants to let him do it wtf.
    4. Paul basically declares himself leader of the Christian movement taking charge of the original disciples even rebuking Peter whom Jesus loved.
    5. Paul starts preaching "yes your saved by the grace of the lord" But basically it's a one time grace for your past and now your expected to be perfect or your sin has trampled the Lords grace and am worse than a non-believer and destined for hell!
    6. He sets all these tough requirements as for what constitutes a sin and to cast your brother out if he violates them. (Jesus never said any of this)
    7. Then he admits that he can't even keep his own standards.
    8. Jesus told Peter to take care of his "sheep/flock" Not Paul!

    Romans 7

    <sup id="en-KJV-28111">19</sup>For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. <sup id="en-KJV-28112">20</sup>Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

    OK think about this for a moment. Jesus says his father is also ours and that he is even a better father than we are to our children.
    Anyone who has kids can relate to what I'm about to say next.
    I have an 11 y.o. daughter and a 8 y.o. son. I have rules set for my house. They often break my rules. They are often guilty of arguing, fighting, hitting, blackmailing eachother(you better do this or I'm telling dad), stealing from one another, just doing some really f-ed up sh!t sometimes, They have lied about things before and hidden bad grades, theve done things that I specifically told them not too just because they thought I wouldn't find out any many other things. I love my children more than anything in this world (excluding my love for the Lord) And would never put one out of my house no matter how bad they f-up. Now that said they get punished for stuff, but never thrown out, and believe me partner If anyone wanted to take them or hurt them all hell would break loose.

    Now If I love my kid's this much, how much does your heavenly father love me and you

    Remember Peter?

    Jesus had a great love for and peter swore he would never deny him,
    now what did dude do?
    He denied him 3 yah I said 3 times before the rooster crowed.


    I haven't even messed up that bad yet and I've done some stupid sh!t know what I'm sayin' Dawg!

    Then not only does Jesus forgive him, but then hands over the keys to the church to him!

    Now that's grace cuz!


    What it is to be a true christian:

    First put aside all you have heard about religion (religion is not faith and leads to death) and understand what the real picture is:

    Jesus is a King, he rules a kingdom. Now the king is very noble and honorable "Holy" and has high expectations of his people.

    He realized that we were unable to live up to his expectations so he offered granted us clemency.

    Now in return he asks us to first acknowledge that he is our Lord and that we were not living up to his standards and that we've been little sh!theads(sin),then acknowledge that we have received clemency through his mercy on us. He also asks for our devout love and total loyalty.

    That's what a real Christian is!

  9. CBMS

    CBMS Looking for a safe place

    You know Patriot (originally said tango), You finally make some sense to me. I agree totally, with EVERYTHING you have just said. I am glad I am not alone in the way I feel about religion. I like your analogy that you use in your own house, and I agree with how children behave. I remember doing the same things as your children do. I like it and I'll keep it. TYVM!
  10. andy

    andy Monkey+++

    well said Patriot1976
  11. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer


    Um thanks...but that was "patriot1976" (?).

    I can just about point to the king james some where on the shelf....
  12. thepatriot1976

    thepatriot1976 Resigned Membership

    Excuse me family but I have an important announcement to make!

    In my last post I accused a certain beloved member of our monkey family(Tracy) of a comment she didn't make. I was confused about another comment left by a different monkey and falsely accused Tracy before reading back and verifying the poster.Number 4 has now been removed.

    Tracy I'm sincerely sorry,

    I hope you will forgive me!

    Your Brother,


  13. andy

    andy Monkey+++

    woops,:oops: sorry Patriot.... :oops:
  14. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    Hokay, If they bring on the "Amero" does it necessarily replace the dollar??? Couldn't it just exist concurrently with the dollar, peso and ca dollar ??? Like the euro and the: British "pound" /Duetcshe mark/French Franc do today?????

    (Don't mis understand "they" could very easily control who can get amero and what they are accepted for).

    Oh yeah,one more thing: is that mormon "magic underwear" ballistic threat level II or III?[lolol][gun]:eek:o_O:eek:
  15. thepatriot1976

    thepatriot1976 Resigned Membership

    Ummm.. well you got me on this one sure would love to get my hands on a NWO SOP manuel and see all the fine details!
  16. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

  17. thepatriot1976

    thepatriot1976 Resigned Membership

    God Bless you my brother Tango!

    Ya'll click on this link and read and watch every video on there.

    If you graduate (watch & read everything on the site) I will issue you your "Red pill"!

  18. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    Thought you'd enjoy that one; I've barely scratched the surface.
  19. thepatriot1976

    thepatriot1976 Resigned Membership

  20. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    Long winded thought spools out below:
    The great unwrapping:

    Can we agree it really is a point of view..

    I.e. It's possible we have a set of facts and reported events that have been carefully crafted together in a clever way to create the "nwo bogeyman" story. Like"Global terrorism" there is no way to touch it,no meeting minutes.. if something doesn't fit' in the story is evolved slightly.
    ( Alex had that story of the search teams forcibly entering houses in the flood area,it was written as if there was nothing but criminal intent behind these teams,and the comments feeding off each other were of the fiery "kill' em all"type. We had no way to know how high the water level got. Its just possible they were looking for and finding bodies.and unlit gas pilots ).. ( And I know full well they could turn all utilities off outside the house...)

    Say an internet server"farm" mainly serves north America.Built and owned by a history buff the slogan is"serving the new world"
    Tinfoilers ( have to include myself to be fair ) would find out about it and imediately a quite innocent organization is the hq for nefarious deeds(?)

    My original thought that brought this post on is: We seem to have the perfect confluence of events for the "nwo story".I.E. The laws for martial law and "dictatorship" are on the books, we have several outside enemies,we have fuel,food and economic "crisis"on the visible horizon.

    So the ducks are in line for the "NWO Story"to reach a climax.Or at least the story has become an almost seamless overlay with reality...

    IF the2008 elections go off with out a hitch, GW/cheney step down cleanly; there is no coup, say obama/leno take office in January.
    Does that mean effectively the NWO story is merely a scary story we tell liberals around a campfire deep in the woods? Otherwise , "Martial law is coming soon" becomes another never ending story.
    And in practical terms(reality) does it matter (if it never comes to fruition)?

    So if none of this transpires in the next 6 months can I just go ahead and delete all my bookmarks and chalk it off to wasted time?

    I think( its arguably "possible") the strength of the "Hollowman nwo bogeyman" story is derived purely from the "sum total" ( the relationship of all these individual facts to each other). Taken individually there are perfectly innocent and logical reasons for alot of this stuff..???
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