Tired of the Misanthropy

From many years of bad experiences I have no love for humans in general. That is why I really appreciate the people who are still good and decent and why I joined here...because most everyone seems good and decent.

The only exception is @chelloveck, he's not just good and decent, he also knows how to poke da bear! Love ya, buddy.

 

@RightHand thank you for addressing the misanthropic behaviors that have been cropping up.

I think it shows up mostly in political threads that resort to name calling. .. like cupcake, snowflake etc. It's possible to express a viewpoint that differs from others without resorting to name calling.

In a democracy there are always people voicing different view points. The backlash of the silent majority is getting a bit out of hand on this site.

When we post political info and then add derogatory terms, you help the media manipulate you and others. you help perpetuate hate and anger.

Just because main stream media posts liberal hate OP eds doesn't mean a personal more conservative position isn't valid. It just means you position is a silent majority. Until we take back mainstream reporting by holding them accountable for reporting facts, they will continue to manipulate and try to get liberal and conservative to fight each other. The people on this site are much more intelligent than that.

Since I have been here this site has encouraged discussion of different view points. Where we go south... just my opinion.... is allowing derogatory language and derogatory memes and pics. I know they can be funny sometimes but for the sake of a laugh are we really willing to continue to spread hate for our fellow man merely because we disagree??

 

Hate? They're words. I find it troubling that humans seem to be devolving to the point where they can't....or don't bother attempting at all...to understand what is said because they are too busy finding ways to be offended by how it is said or what words are used.

Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words can never hurt me.

 

Maybe you're not understanding what is said, chimo.

 

@chimo notice you hear 'hate words' as something offensive.... (or whatever reaction you had.) The point isn't the words it's the reaction and the venom with which it's delivered.

There is no communication when one party deliberately uses words that push at others. I realize this might not communicate in text. So an example

The military people on this side are very loyal, honorable and proud of their service to God and Country. Did any of you like it when you came back from Vietnam and we're called 'baby killers'?

That was hate language. Completly inappropriate disrespectful and misanthropic

 

maybe...but I see a lot of concern about words like cupcake, snowflake, etc. That is how some of us talk...those words are less offensive than some of the four letter words that are just as harmless...but more offensive to many.

No, it was free expression. You are allowed to be offended by the way it is expressed, but that doesn't trump their right to express it in the way they choose.

Rather than getting offended, how about just asking for specific examples of how I or you, personally killed any babies? Then when they back track to saying that you or I were a member of the country doing said killing, point out how they are too and how their tax dollars were used to do it. Much more fun...and productive!

A very smart woman taught me long ago that the best way to battle hate is with kindness, wit and facts. If you show that you are hurt or offended...they have accomplished their mission and they win.

 

You are right. I just started a new thread on garden security. I can't complain if I don't try and contribute to more discussion on prepping itself. I'll try and start another one or two over the next week.

AT

 

If you had issue with my snowflake thread, you were more then welcome to state your dislike of it. Either on the thread or in private. I have been called racist by black people and those left wing voters. I have been told that I dislike black people and discriminate because I vote conservative. Those people that said that had no clue I have black people in my family.

You are just wonderful. Thank you

 

I think I understand and the "young woman in the local Mini-Mart who wore a hijab" is a good example. It is very easy to group all Muslims into one group but in truth the majority of the Muslims of the world don't hate Americans and don't want to kill us. Yet, it is difficult at times when these horrible things happen to put logic before emotion. But, in my opinion, this forum is very, very good at doing this and not only for the reasons you have pointed out (self-regulation and moderation) but because the people of this forum are generally moderates and believe in 'live and let live.' And, frankly, I would bet most on this forum would love to forget about politics but reality bites and alas we cannot for fear of the consequences.

 

I have to say I disagree. Example: you learn survival and such then you pass that on to your daughter. Are you going to leave it strictly up to your daughter to teach the grandkids or is that your duty also? You have a wealth of knowledge & information so pass it on. With every post someone makes, that is a chance for a member reading to have a light bulb go on and think I never knew or that is the solution I was looking for.

I actually had this conversation with a long time member last month. I was talking about a new concept I had found on another forum. This member had known about this concept but never shared because it was second nature to him.

 

If we/you don't discuss prepping because most of what needs to be said has been, then what's left to discuss on a survival website beyond the politics and religion discussions which result is discourse less than satisfying?

I'll reiterate a previous point that I don't accept that most that can be discussed about prepping has been. And even if the basics are well covered, then that leaves the advanced stuff and which is what has previously differentiated this site boosting it's signal to noise ratio.

AT

 

I suppose I am probably one of the misanthropes to whom you refer.

I have come close to quitting the site on 4 or 5 occasions in the past year or so, and have most certainly cut down the amount of time I spend here...not to mention the number of posts I make. A large part of the reason for my distancing myself has been the change from a place where people shared their experiences in prepping to a news and political forum. I usually stay away from political forums because I do not suffer well those who I do consider idiots (my personal opinion is that those who say idiotic things and promote idiotic ideas are by definition idiots)...and tact has never been one of my strong points. We have our few liberals, our "Christian Mullahs" who hate any references to Sharia Law (as do I, by the way), but would have our country run by it's Christian equivalent and those who believe this is the place to promote the idea of armed insurrection as if it were a private place.

I miss the Monkey I found not too many years ago where the majority of the conversations related to prepping hints and experiences. I originally came here because I was told elsewhere that there was a .pdf copy (pre-publication) of Lights Out and I had heard enough of it in other places to want to read it. I stayed at the time because there was so much more prepping discussion and so much less political discussion compared to other "survival" sites. I tend to stay away from heavily political forums partly because I am not one who discusses such things dispassionately and I have been asked to leave a number of forums as a result. I am sure that, as the Monkey becomes even more political, I will eventually be asked to leave it. In the meantime, I will respond to what I see as idiocy in my normal manner.