U.S. On Alert For Nuclear Blast Overhead

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Yard Dart, Apr 1, 2013.

  1. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    U.S. on alert for nuclear blast overhead

    Can the North Korean's lob a nuke at us and do an orbital EMP strike on anywhere USA? If they can pull this off, we are looking at the potential wide spread loss of the electrical grid, which would cause a ripple of chaos from the loss of power and critical services. Are you doing anything above and beyond your current preperation's at this time, due to this possible scenario? We know the history of saber ratteling, but what if it is not, that is the gamble.
  2. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Just put all the Backup Electronics, and Radios, that are stored in EMP Proof Storage, in the Underground Cache... No use taking chances....
    If that little MOrooon, does something like that His little space an earth will be a Glass covered Parking Lot for the chinese to occupy, in a few hundred years.....
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  3. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

  4. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    This is all believable, not anything that would create another conspiracy theory. Might even squelch a few. (Bring on the arguments.)
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  5. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    The Military can plan all they want, but unless they can dig up, their own Steam Locomotives from the 1940's, they are not going to be moving any of their Armor out of Ft Reily on trains, if an EMP Device goes off and is as effectives as has been postulated, by the Talking Heads..... and you don't march M1A Tanks for 2000 miles on their OWN Power.....
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  6. VHestin

    VHestin Farm Chick

    Well good thing about the U.S. power grid being severly disabled, no more "The View" or any other of those stupid shows that make me glad I don't have TV anymore.
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  7. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    The ole LPC will have to get them around....
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  8. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    I vote for a glass topped parking lot. It can't be uninhabitable for more than a few dozen years, NOTHING made in Korea, lasts more than about %25 of what is supposed to.
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  9. tulianr

    tulianr Don Quixote de la Monkey

    U.S. deploys warship off South Korea amid soaring tensions on peninsula

    By Jack Kim | Reuters – 56 mins ago

    SEOUL (Reuters) - The United States has positioned a warship off the Korean coast as a shield against ballistic missile attack as South Korea's new president vowed swift retaliation against a North Korean strike amid soaring tensions on the peninsula.

    But Washington also said it had seen no worrisome mobilization of armed forces by the North Koreans despite bellicose rhetoric over a ramping up of international sanctions against Pyongyang over nuclear weapons tests.

    "If there is any provocation against South Korea and its people, there should be a strong response in initial combat without any political considerations," South Korean President Park Geun-hye told the defense minister and senior officials.

    North Korea says the region is on the brink of a nuclear war in the wake of U.N. sanctions in response to its February nuclear test and a series of joint U.S. and South Korean military drills that have included a rare U.S. show of aerial power.

    In Washington, the White House has said the United States takes seriously North Korea's war threats. But White House spokesman Jay Carney said on Monday: "I would note that despite the harsh rhetoric we are hearing from Pyongyang, we are not seeing changes to the North Korean military posture, such as large-scale mobilizations and positioning of forces."

    North Korea further escalated its rhetoric on Saturday by saying it was entering a "state of war" with South Korea in response to what it termed the "hostile" military drills.

    A U.S. defense official said the USS McCain, an Aegis-class guided-missile destroyer used for ballistic missile defense, was being positioned off the peninsula's southwestern coast.

    "This is a prudent move that provides greater missile defense options should (they) become necessary," said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity. The ship was not expected to participate in any exercises, the official added.

    South Korea has changed its rules of engagement to allow local units to respond immediately to attacks, rather than waiting for permission from Seoul.

    Stung by criticism that its response to the shelling of a South Korean island in 2010 was tardy and weak, Seoul has also threatened to target young North Korean leader Kim Jong-un and to destroy statues of the ruling Kim dynasty in the event of any new attack, a plan that has outraged Pyongyang.


    North Korea stepped up its rhetoric in early March, when U.S. and South Korean forces began annual military drills that involved the flights of U.S. B-2 stealth bombers in a practice run, prompting the North to put its missile units on standby to fire at U.S. military bases in South Korea and in the Pacific.

    The United States also deployed F-22 stealth fighter jets on Sunday to take part in the drills. The Pentagon said it was the fourth time F-22s had been deployed to South Korea.

    Australia, a close U.S. ally and rotating U.N. Security Council member, said it would urge China to help enforce sanctions banning the flow of technology and equipment to North Korea.

    Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard, who leaves on Friday for Beijing, plans to call on Chinese leaders to help bolster stop-and-search provisions for shipping to and from North Korea, Foreign Minister Bob Carr said. Canberra also plans its own banking and financial sanctions.

    "The immediate priority is to see the sanctions agreed on by the Security Council are properly enforced," Carr said on Tuesday.


    North Korea has cancelled an armistice agreement with the United States that ended the Korean War and has cut all hotlines with U.S. forces, the United Nations and South Korea.

    At a recent meeting of North Korea's ruling Workers Party Central Committee, leader Kim Jong-un rejected the notion that Pyongyang was going to use its nuclear arms development as a bargaining chip for foreign aid for the impoverished nation.

    "The nuclear weapons of Songun Korea are not goods for getting U.S. dollars and they are ... (not) to be put on the table of negotiations aimed at forcing the (North) to disarm itself," KCNA news agency quoted him as saying.

    Songun is the Korean word for the "Military First" policy preached by Kim's father who used it to justify the use of the impoverished state's scarce resources to build a 1.2-million strong army and pursue development of weapons of mass destruction.

    At the meeting, Kim appointed a handful of personal confidants to the party's politburo, further consolidating his grip on power in the second full year of his reign.

    Former premier Pak Pong-ju, a key confidant of the leadership dynasty, was re-appointed to the post from which he was fired in 2007 for failing to implement economic reforms.

    Pak, believed to be in his 70s, is viewed as a key ally of Jang Song-thaek, the young Kim's uncle and also a protege of Kim's aunt. Pak is viewed as a pawn in a power game that has seen Jang and his wife re-assert power over military leaders.

    Analysts said the move would not likely change North Korea's approach to a confrontation that appears to have dragged the two Koreas closer to war.

    U.S. deploys warship off South Korea amid soaring tensions on peninsula - Yahoo! News
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  10. NotSoSneaky

    NotSoSneaky former supporter

    The smarter Monkeys already planted theirs.
  11. Mindgrinder

    Mindgrinder Karma Pirate Ninja|RIP 12-25-2017

  12. Mindgrinder

    Mindgrinder Karma Pirate Ninja|RIP 12-25-2017

    You really think the rest of the world will stand by and let you drop nukes on civilians again?
    Are you really that arrogant to think you can get away with a first strike against a country full of oppressed slaves and an army that couldn't possibly win a fight against you?
    It's because of this sort of "just nuke'em" mentality that the entire world is gonna sit back and laugh when the bankers pull the plug on your dollar and you descend into civil war. Most of them are prolly gonna say:
    "Bully USA, u had it coming."
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  13. DMGoddess

    DMGoddess Monkey+++

    People will still manage to have the stupid crap that they've become addicted to, you just watch.
  14. VHestin

    VHestin Farm Chick

    Good news still, the zombies/sheeple will just stay glued to their (defunct) TVs and not bother us :cool:
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  15. DMGoddess

    DMGoddess Monkey+++

    Unfortunately, it's probably true.
  16. Icefoot

    Icefoot Monkey+

    Just finished reading this document. Good read. Nothing really new or surprising for Monkeys. But interesting to see the report confirm IN PRINT what we have known all along: Survivability is a personal responsibility (verbatim from the conclusions section of the report). Which reveals much about the military thinking: "You people are on your own. Don't expect us to fix anything or even keep order (that is DHS responsibility). We will keep watch on the borders and sit this out until the subsequent unrest/disruption settles down".
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  17. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Yep, and DHS doesn't have ANY Troops of it's own other than a few ICE and Boarder Guards, so the best they can do, is supply the local LEOs with a stock of Ammo, from their 1.6 Billion rounds and Hope for the Best.... Many of the States National Guard Units, under the governor's control would NOT take kindly to a FEDERAL Presents unless the Governor Asked for them.... This where it is going to get Messy... which side are the Guard Units going to come down on. Local side or Federal side... and will the Standing Military, stay out of it?
  18. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    They will nationalize the guard and state police at the minimum to be "attached to DHS command and control- most likely down to the county level. What happens at that point is the messy part- some will go their own direction and support neither state or fed control.

    @Icefoot is correct:
    YOU are on your own!!
  19. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Constitutional Sheriffs will LIKELY only deal with State Controlled, National Guard Units, under the Authority of the State Governor, and any National presents will be secondary, if at all. The FEDs can NOT nationalize the State Guard Units without the Governors consent, or against his will, for deployment inside the US Boarders. DHS doesn't have that Authority, and even if they tried, I suspect many Guard Units would tell them to "Pound Sand" as they will be looking to protect "Theirs"... Now City Police Chiefs, are "whole nother matter"... They are beholden to not the Residents of the City, but to the Mayor, and City Councils. They may well be co-opted by DHS, HOWEVER they likely would NOT go up Against the State Guard Units, or County Sheriffs, but AGAIN it will be Messy...

    If it was "Me" as a County Sheriff, I would call up the local Militia, and Deputize them, as a Posse, under the direction of my Standing Deputies, as Squad Leaders, and secure my County. Then contact the Governor, and inform Him, that My County was secure, for the present, and see what the State situation was, and deal with things from there.
    Let the Guard Units go to the Cities, where it is much more Likely that issues will be arising, than out in the Counties.... and if the City Police can't handle their populations, then the Governor can Appoint a State Military Commander, for that City, and that Commander can then bring the City Police under his Command and Control, without any NEED for the FEDs to get involved, other than a Support Role, under FEMA, if the Governor so chooses, and REQUESTS. This keeps the Federal Standing Army, on their Bases, and out of any Civilian Action, and DHS is a Toothless Tiger, at that point...

    Here in Alaska we do NOT have Sheriffs, and the Governorship is the Elected Office that controls the State Troopers and National Guard. All other Civilian Law Enforcement, is subservient to the State Troopers. It is very common to have a State Trooper organize a Village, to preform some duties, in SAR, and Emergency situations. Part of their Training is how to setup, these kind of things, and command such Groups, under their Authority, as the Highest Law Enforcement in the State. The Governor is the CiC of the Guard, as well, So he is the MAN for US....
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  20. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    When they say "space launch vehicle" are they talking about the Korean satellite? This is the one they shot up in December:
    KMS 3-2 Satellite details 2012-072A NORAD 39026
    This is the 2nd most tracked satellite.

    The article is kind of confusing. One satellite crashed in the ocean, one is still up and I can't recall a 3rd.
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