UFO Government Secrets - Objective Overview

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  3. It's all man-made and aliens play no part

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  1. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member


    I believe this to be a good overview which is objective and not made by some disturbed civilian who has eaten too much GMO food. In short, it is very well presented.

    Additional Information:
    A black budget is a budget that is secretly collected from the overall income of a nation, a corporation, a society of any form, a national department, and so on. A black budget usually covers expenses related to military research. The budget is kept secret for national security reasons.

    Philip Schneider claimed that the alleged "Dulce Base" in the U.S. state of New Mexico is run by such a budget. Many other programs such as Area 51 in Groom Lake, Nevada, and many experimental or covert military programs as well are said to be run by black budgets.[attribution needed]

    The United States Department of Defense has a black budget it uses to fund black projects—expenditures it does not want to disclose publicly. The annual cost of the United States Department of Defense black budget was estimated at $32 billion in 2008 but was increased to an estimated $50 billion in 2009.

    The state secrets privilege is an evidentiary rule created by United States legal precedent. Application of the privilege results in exclusion of evidence from a legal case based solely on affidavits submitted by the government stating that court proceedings might disclose sensitive information which might endanger national security.[1][2][3][4][5][6] United States v. Reynolds,[7] which involved military secrets, was the first case that saw formal recognition of the privilege.

    Following a claim of "state secrets privilege", the court rarely conducts an in camera examination of the evidence to evaluate whether there is sufficient cause to support the use of this doctrine. This results in court rulings in which even the judge has not verified the veracity of the assertion. The privileged material is completely removed from the litigation, and the court must determine how the unavailability of the privileged information affects the case.

    Special access programs (SAPs) in the federal government of the United States of America are security protocols that provides highly classified information with safeguards and access restrictions that exceed those for regular (collateral) classified information. It may be a type of black project. A SAP can only be initiated, modified, and terminated within their department or agency; the Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, Secretary of Energy, Secretary of Homeland Security, the Attorney General, the Director of National Intelligence; their principal deputies (e.g. the Deputy Secretary of State in DoS and the Deputy Secretary of Defense in DoD); or others designated in writing by the President. In addition to collateral controls, a SAP may impose more stringent investigative or adjudicative requirements, specialized nondisclosure agreements, special terminology or markings, exclusion from standard contract investigations (carve-outs), and centralized billet systems.


    The Shadow Government/UFO conspiracy (Blue Planet Project)
     
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  2. Gopherman

    Gopherman Sometimes I Wish I Could Go Back to Sleep Site Supporter++

    I absolutely believe there is something strange going on! I've seen 2 UFO's in my lifetime in a one week span, out on maneuvers in Yakima Washington.
    I believe, personally that these are Extra Terrestrials are Not of this Earth, however, I also believe them to be Fallen Angels.
    The Bible completely supports this theory! When confronted of his Kingdom, Jesus stated quite clearly, that his Kingdom was not of this Earth!
    God looked Down upon the Earth from Heaven, there are many Biblical references, also the oldest, historically accurate, recorded history of the Planet!
    The question now becomes, "If not of this Earth then Where?"
     
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  3. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Perhaps "when" would be a better question. ;)
     
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  4. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    @Brokor Are you sure you are NOT Art Bell, in disguise......
     
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  5. DarkLight

    DarkLight I self identify as a Blackhawk Attack Helicopter! Site Supporter

    Art retired and George Noory has taken over. He wasn't as off the deep end when he first stepped in but he's lost it too now.
     
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  6. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Friend of mine say's that they are ours.
    In the 60's he was home from college and out one night behind his fathers drive-in theater bull eyeing rabbits when one pulled up to watch the movie, He set down and watched them for about 15 minutes.
    Men walking around in flight suits with a red light on inside.
    After 15 minutes or so, He shined them with the bull eye, They went black and pulled off real slow over the tree tops.
    They are ours. This was in Bogalusa La.
     
  7. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Fact or Fake?

     
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  8. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    FAKE. For several reasons, but definitely 100% FAKE.
     
  9. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    This has more credibility than most of what I have seen on aliens in particular

     
  10. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Now, remember all the deep underground military bases? How good is your history? Hold on for this.

    What am I not saying? Well, I will say that maybe these guys shouldn't be speaking about the Vril in past tense.
     
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  11. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Ok Broker, Spill the beans, You've seen something?
     
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  12. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    I've seen lots. Unfortunately, much unlike the Apostles of the Christian bible, my Revelation really is just a personal experience and I do not expect the whole world to believe me at my testimony alone. If we were living a few hundred years in the past, sure. I would just write a book and make a new philosophy to replace an invasive religion.
     
  13. madmax

    madmax Far right. Bipolar. Veteran. Don't push me.

    I haven't watched the vids yet. But I probably have already seen them. I will check them out.

    The universe is a very big place.
     
  14. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Moderator Moderator Site Supporter++

    I don't understand why they keep saying it is a matter of nation security. Not like they can slap sanctions on them if the aliens miss behave. We can't even get a handle on the Mexicans down South, not sure how the gov't thinks it can handle alleged higher intelligence.
     
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  15. DarkLight

    DarkLight I self identify as a Blackhawk Attack Helicopter! Site Supporter

    Most likely with arrogance and a dismissive attitude with the assumption that we can just "nuke their @$$es". That was probably my favorite part of Independence Day when the nukes did literally nothing and everyone was looking around with an "Oh Crap" reaction.

    Either way, if it exists/happens, it will most likely not end well for the apes.
     
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  16. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    I don't think some of you will be able to stay with me...but this is only the beginning. There's so much more than I can accurately explain, but the basic premise must be understood, first. After this core, fundamental idea can be grasped, there is no need for me to explain.

     
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  17. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    I've been told that only in your wildest imagination can a person guess a mere 10% of what's going on in Area 51.
     
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  18. oldawg

    oldawg Monkey+++

    I've been around a fair amount of time. I have seen a great deal in my near 69 years. Enough that I can say without reservation there ain't no way we are the smartest beings in the galaxies. Go to wallyworld on any Saturday and you will understand. Invade us? Why? If they are already here we would hear the uproarious laughter as they watched us carry on in what must appear to them as way past pitiful conduct. Of course being a prepper I have plenty of goose loads...you know............just in case. [alien] [sawgunner]
     
  19. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    It's strange to think we are the only "intelligent" life in all the universe and beyond -to me at least. Still, despite all the sightings and UFO/alien influence in our lives, and despite the secret black projects, I still hold some reservations. Sure, there are lots and lots of ridiculously fake videos out there, especially with CGI and image manipulation programs, and no shortage of fanatics and jokers. I like to think there's some truth hidden amidst the chaos. I look for patterns, as Sherlock Holmes would, or any objective investigator. I find it convenient that the mass hysteria and explosion of sightings began shortly after and just during World War II. Even though I cannot fully tie it all together, I can see some of the tracks left behind. So, the technology exists, that much I am certain, for these reasons as well as my own experiences. The only really BIG question left is to definitively claim that aliens DO exist, instead of falling back on "it's certainly possible". For me, this part of the equation isn't yet completed, no matter how likely it seems.
     
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