US Army to Patrol in the USA

I think most of us at survival sites will fair better then the average Joe.

 

May I remind you of 911, Katrina, Pear Harbor just to name a few. All of these and more show the willingness of the American people to pull together and join a cause. Those sitting in the cubical's trying to control will be of the first to see the end of a barrel. All it will take is for the mass to see the few fighting the enemy and not each other for them to join in.

 

I think this is true as long as we arent caught unawares.

Keeping one ear to the wall may serve a good purpose with all this 'disinformation' going on (TV,Radio,etc)

 

indefensible pointless comment withdrawn ( deleted)...time for chilidogs onions and beer!

 

Forget the troops, just unleash a virus to kill off 180 million people in the U.S. and tens of millions more world wide. If that doesn't work just drop some neutron bombs in all the major U.S. cities.


YouTube- Neutron Bomb creator speaks

 

My point was more of the country pulling together as one. I was disagreeing with the point of us not working together or being organized in a time of need, regardless of the cause.

 

+1 that's actualy where I was going in my deleted rant ( "katrina confiscation"Nobody stoodup against gun confiscation during katrina, not one person.) but quit when I realized the situation was different, we have had natural disasters before. But there's always the light at the end of the tunnel or the half of the country not effected where the sun still comes up and everything is normal.
If "martial law were ever enacted("levied"?)
it would be something never experienced here. In that there may be no return to normal representative constitutional gov't...

 

But Al supposedly "they" shot at rescue helos and after seeing the lady turn her nose up at mres and plain drinking water! on national t.v.I wasn't inclined to help any "handsout" takers..Guard troops were still confiscating weapons..

 

Still not my point Tango. People joined together to help. You know, if they were dumb enough to bite the hand that feeds them then they deserved what they got.

 

This is one of those no sure answer topics.. it remains to be seen; and is becoming heated.,.
I would hope Al's right, Somehow I see today we are too fragmented (on purpose???).
I see a cartoonish picture of a giant with one foot nailed to the floor foundering around in circles while swatting at a swarm of bees around his head...

But then I really would hope it never comes to a shooting revolution. Who are we fooling? Like kids in the basement with a chemistry set( a free pocket constitution and a bunch of guns) A civil war or fresh shooting revolution would be a horrible experience and when its over who can guarantee the result (back to mobs shouting/shooting over each other)???

The point I (like brokor) was trying to get across is there is no one enemy, dems will say its those damn repubs on the other sideof the isle, repubs like wise...Is the enemy the military ordered to enforce civilian law? The civilian who ordered them ? or the civilian who made it legal for the CINC to order them in?


I have to back away from this thread as the temp rises....

I throw in with brokor on this one...

 

Its a friendly conversation guys. I'm not disagreeing with you on many points, but I believe Country wide martial law would be much different then the Katrina event.

Anyways, none of us have a crystal ball. We don't know how folks will act but I can tell you from first hand experience. Desperate people will do desperate things. Unless you've been on that fringe of desperation like I was 10 years ago you won't understand.

So guys take a few deep breaths and relax a bit. No need for it to be heated.

We have different views so I'm going to bow out of this thread.

 

I have kept my mouth shut on this one, but I can't take the anymore. First, there is nothing new on this issue, CSMRF or whichever letters make up the "see-smurf" accronym have been around for some time, it has just finally hit the tin hat community. "Homeland Defense" has been taught a the war college for years.
Secondly, Broker, we seem to be back in the urban legend statements about the Guard taking weapons at Katrina, B.S. I was there, didn't happen. Law Enforcement took the weapons, not the Guard. Every case I was briefed on was people coming out and waving them at the LEOs and rescue workers as they were assessing neighborhoods. Most of them were bangers protecting their stashes. I was at the dome and have pictures of what those people had and didn't have. Didja know that every one of those people could have walked through about 50 yards of knee deep water, climed a 50' ladder and walked themselves out of there?
Finally, an armed resistance without coordination is going to invite a large scale yard party in which you will loose. Don't think these troops haven't seen it before? Someone mentioned insurgents in Iraq times 100? Really, where are you going to get your RPGs, explosives, and artillery stashes, you know, the thing that makes the insurgency dangerous in iraq. I watched it time and again on this board, people think the "military' is just going to bumble up their driveway and give the hold out the opportunity to "paint the inside of their helmets with their brains" if I remember the quote correctly. There seems to be a belief that shooting Gubment people is aikin to shooting zombies.
Besides, when it comes to starvation due to cut off food, how many of you are already identified by your neighbors, work companions, or family as being the neighborhood flake. Don't think you won't get ratted out for that bag of snickers?
Let's not forget fuel, one valve at the fuel terminal will shut most cities down in a day, those bugout plans after the fact will be useless or leave you as the only one on the road to find those roadblocks.
Anyone really think this country will stand up for what is right? I wouldn't bet on it for the same reason we are dealing with the current administration. This country lost it's balls years ago, just hasn't figured it out yet.

 

One more for the "realists"...Military counter intel /counter insurgency folks get paid for what they do (i.e.pros)...This "lone wolf revolutionary" myth needs to die like the "backpack survivor ("warrior of the wasteland" myth):I.E." Shooting mzb's while carrying every weapon they own along with food and shelter on their back. (ha! " Best" gun? why I've got my 870 for anything close, the m4 for on a tactical sling for medium range, the glock on the right hip, 1911 in a shoulder holster..308 bolt for counter sniper...Hence invincible... can't move but I can command the 1000 yards around me.

A majority up here are vulnerable because of the NEED for fuel, unless you've got separate wood heat and a woodlot, you need a continuous flow of utilities, winters are just too harsh. Turn the switches and valves off and 10 guys can assure compliance of 98/9% of the populace.

Armed insurection is just a complete nonstarter:
Then there's the practical aspects, just for argument: get past pages1 through 375 in this bit of pulp"survivalist fiction": lets say a loose rabble of "revolutionaries" manages to "beat" every gov't employee back across the d.c. line.( whatever you might call a "win") Do you want to be "in charge?" I don't...
Do you want the crazy irresponsible kid in tiger stripes down at the range "in charge"? How about scumbag ms-13 bangers who show up to play with their organization intact???