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Using Gun Rights Haters Own Research Against Them

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by OldDude49, Mar 5, 2016.

  1. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    The Distribution of Murder
    AmmoLand Gun News

    United States -(AmmoLand.com)- Easy to do with Robert Muggah, among many things the coauthor of “We Need Better Data for a Serious Gun Control Debate”, an article in which he advocates gun control despite the fact that he claims there isn’t enough good data on the subject to even have a debate about it.

    A tad bias, wouldn’t you agree?

    Could that be why gun rights advocates don’t want such people doing research on crime and violence?
    But I digress, on October 8, 2014 he gave a talk at TEDGlobal 2014: South! in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil titled “How To Protect Fast-Growing Cities From Failing”:

    In his talk he says a number of things that make clear that guns aren’t the drivers of a high murder rate. Most importantly, he directly contradicts that major gun rights haters’ argument when Dr. Muggah says that, “…when it comes to cities, the conversation is dominated by the North, that is, North America, Western Europe, Australia and Japan, where violence is actually at historic lows.”. He then drives home the point with:

    What’s more, we’re seeing a dramatic reduction in homicide. Manuel Eisner and others have shown that for centuries, we’ve seen this incredible drop in murder, especially in the West. Most Northern cities today are 100 times safer than they were just 100 years ago.

    These two facts — the decline in armed conflict and the decline in murder — are amongst the most extraordinary, if unheralded, accomplishments of human history, and we should be really excited, right?

    That drop in murder rates includes the United States with all its guns.
    The slide from his presentation above clearly shows the US to be in the same low murder rate category as western Europe. So much for the lie that the US is a very dangerous place!

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