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Vector Arms in trouble!

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by Quigley_Sharps, Jun 29, 2008.

  1. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

  2. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    <TABLE class=tborder id=post298669 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD class=alt1 id=td_post_298669>http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/fls/PressR...080620-02.html

    June 20, 2008

    R. Alexander Acosta, United States Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, Sharon Woods, Director, U.S. Department of Defense, Defense Criminal Investigative Service, Anthony V. Mangione, Special Agent in Charge, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Office of Investigations in Miami, Brigadier General Rodney Johnson, Commanding General, U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command, and Paul Phillips, Regional Director, Defense Contract Audit Agency, announced today that AEY, Inc. (AEY), Efraim Diveroli, David Packouz, Alexander Podrizki, and Ralph Merrill were indicted by a federal grand jury in Miami on wide-ranging fraud charges in connection with their provision of ammunition to Afghanistan.

    More specifically, Count 1charges all defendants with conspiracy to defraud the U.S. by making false representations to the government and by conspiring to commit procurement fraud, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 371 (Count 1). Counts 2 through 36 charge defendants AEY and Efraim Diveroli with making false statements to the U.S. Army regarding the country of origin of the ammunition, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1001. Lastly, all defendants are charged with procurement fraud against the United States, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1031 (Counts 37 - 71).

    As alleged in the Indictment, AEY is a munitions supplier, with offices in Miami Beach, FL. Defendant Efraim Diveroli is the President of AEY, and manages and directs the business operations of AEY. Defendant David Packouz was a Director and Vice President of AEY. Defendant Alexander Podrizki was an agent of AEY, stationed in Tirana, Albania. Defendant Ralph Merrill was a business associate of Diveroli, who provided financial and managerial assistance to AEY.

    According to the Indictment, on July 28, 2006, the Department of the Army (Army) issued a solicitation requesting bids on a contract to provide various types of ammunition to the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan. AEY submitted a bid and represented to the Army that it could fulfill the requirements of the contract and procure the ammunition for $298,000,000. Based on that bid, the Army awarded the contract to AEY on January 26, 2007. Under the terms of the contract, AEY was required to certify that it was providing serviceable and safe ammunition. The contract also prohibited delivery of ammunition acquired, directly or indirectly, from a Communist Chinese military company.

    The Indictment alleges that the defendants submitted documents to the Army falsely attesting that the ammunition they were providing was manufactured and originated in Albania, when, in fact, the ammunition came from China. To effectuate the scheme, defendants Efraim Diveroli, David Packouz, and Alexander Podrizki would direct others to assist in the packaging of ammunition to be delivered to Afghanistan, and would provide instructions to remove Chinese markings from containers in order to conceal that the ammunition was manufactured and originated in China.

    With each shipment, Diveroli, on behalf of AEY, would falsely certify in a Certificate of Conformance that the ammunition being furnished conformed with the contract requirements, and that the manufacturer and point of origin of the ammunition was the Military Export and Import Company (hereinafter referred to as MEICO) in Tirana, Albania. These false statements in the Certificates of Conformance are the basis for Counts 2- 36 of the Indictment against AEY and Diveroli. Each of the 35 Certificates of Conformance accompanied a separate shipment of ammunition.

    Upon delivery of each shipment of ammunition, defendant Efraim Diveroli would submit and cause others to submit to the Department of the Army, a copy of the Certificate of Conformance and an invoice for payment to AEY. Based on these false submissions, the Army paid AEY approximately $10,331,736 for 35 shipments of Chinese ammunition. These submissions and resulting payments to AEY are the basis of Counts 37- 71.

    If convicted of the charges in Counts 1 through 36, each defendant named faces a maximum term of imprisonment of up to five years per count. If convicted of the charges in Counts 37 through 71, each defendant named faces a maximum term of imprisonment of up to ten years per count.
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  3. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    I bet it takes more than these 2 cars for the lawyer's fees; $125K for the Lamborghini and $39K for the Prowler. Damn that's pretty ballsy, anybody know if anybody has ever defrauded the guberment on such a scale.

    Get a Vector Arms Uzi while you can [booze]
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  4. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    39K for the Prowler? It's a damn Neon in camo, fer cryin' out loud!!
  5. RouteClearance

    RouteClearance Monkey+++ Site Supporter

    It looks as if these guys are going to do some serious time behind bars. How did they think that they could get away with something so obvious.
  6. Valkman

    Valkman Knifemaker Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Vector FA Uzi - check
    Vector supressor - check
    Vector .22 kit - check
    Vector 9mm 70rd drum - check

    All I need is the .45 kit!
  7. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    I got a 45 Uzi sure glad i did.
  8. kcwinston

    kcwinston Monkey++

    Hello, New to the forum thanks
    just to add to Ralph Merrill stuff for sell he also owns the 45 Luger Carbine.
    1908 Luger Carbine, 100% original, 45 cal. Only known 45 Luger Carbine know. GL proofed. One of one. For Sale: $1,000,000.00. The Ulimate Collection Item.
    You can E-mail Ralph @ ralph@worldoflugers.com
    I did some part time welding for vector arms. it was a sweat shop for his for his regular
    here is some history on the gun.

    There were only a few .45 ACP Luger pistols made for the 1920 army trials. Serial # 1 and 2 were actually submitted for the trials. Only #2 is still in existence as serial # 1 was severly used and abused during the tests and was probably discarded afterwards. Heinrich Hoffmann, an engineer at DWM at the time claimed no more than 6 were produced in .45 ACP. It is claimed that serial # 4 was found in Germany in 1945 and brought to the U.S. as a souvenir, but no photos or other documentation have surfaced. The Robert W. Norton Gallery in Louisiana has one example. The pistol has no serial # on it, but the magazine is marked with a numeral "3". Ralph E. Shattuck of Peoria, AZ has a .45 ACP Luger Carbine serial # 21 in his collection, but the documentation authenticating it as being a genuine DWM production gun have not been made public. This gun is currently for sale with an asking price of $1,000,000.
  9. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    Anyone know what the outcome of this was?
  10. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Adventure Riding Monkey Founding Member

    The funny thing is, we milsurp shooters would have paid good money for that ammo and liked it!
  11. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

    I wouldn't buy one now. I wouldn't support a company that pulled this kind of garbage no matter "rare" a vector might become.
  12. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Vector is alive and well. What happened to the guys that were indicted, I haven't been able to find.
  13. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

  14. fedorthedog

    fedorthedog Monkey++

    the millon dollar 45 lugar carbine is known to be a phney. A guy named Martz used to make some from juck lugars and did very nice work, but he never claimed that they were original
  15. Disciple

    Disciple Monkey+

    The defrauding of the GOOBERMINT happens every single day. It's called
  16. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    So apparently Diveroli gets 4 years for possession of a firearm and possession of ammunition as a previously convicted felon and all charges on the government contract front are dropped. Interesting. And how exactly does the US Army start up a multi-million dollar contract with a known felon? I suppose he got a "waiver"? Hilarious.

    All of you guys calling him a fraud and a cheat aught to check the facts before laying judgment. The US government is the only criminal organization, and they hate competition.
  17. Maxflax

    Maxflax Lightning in a bottle

    I have a few original in the wrap 45 UZI 16 rd mags to sell, if you do
  18. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    How much?
  19. Valkman

    Valkman Knifemaker Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    I got rid of my Uzi and all the gear because the wife wanted to buy a car. Sold the damn stuff for $7500 and now we don't have the money or the car. I didn't shoot it much but I hate it that it's gone and I won't be able to get another one.
  20. bobofthedesert

    bobofthedesert Monkey+

    That sucks.

    Had a similar situation where the woman I lived with was always telling me what 'we' could do with the money if I sold some of my gun stuff. I never went for it and a couple years later, she was gone and I still had my stuff. ;)

    That's a real nice looking blade you have on your avatar.
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