Vets Alert!!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ghrit, May 22, 2006.

  1. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    We've got caught out trusting the gobmint, once again. Some 26.5 million sets oc records, names, DOB, and SS numbers have been acquired by a burglar from an untrustworthy VA functionary. These records (according to NBC) go back the the Viet Nam war era. Supposedly, the burglar probably didn't know what he took, but he does now, and all of us are now exposed to identity theft. Watch your credit ratings, if you can figure out how to do it. I'm thinking it is time for a class action suit to recover the expense of setting up a credit watch as well as losses resulting from this clerical error.

    One more reason to think the guv can't be trusted with anything. Even if the guv could be trusted, the people in it cannot. Nufta make me puke. :(
  2. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    Which is exactly why I get in an argument each and every time someone who DOES NOT NEED all my info wants it. After years of trying to resist.... Now I just furnish, very believable, false information.

    The woman at the Hospital whom was drawing my wifes blood. (At our request, for a pregnancy test, and paying cash), Got very huffy when I told her that I did not trust them to keep my info safe. "Oh, We shred everything....." "Good, Then you don't really need it if it's just going to be shredded"
  3. CRC

    CRC Survivor of Tidal Waves | RIP 7-24-2015 Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    I've been doing that for years!

    even my Dr doesn't have the correct info....They simply DO NOT NEED IT!

    and I dont' want them having it.... [angel]
  4. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    I sign Bill Clinton to everything :D
  5. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    FBI seeks stolen personal data on 26 million vets

    Gonzales, VA secretary say no indication of misuse

    Tuesday, May 23, 2006; Posted: 2:05 p.m. EDT (18:05 GMT)
    (CNN) -- Federal agents are trying to recover personal data on more than 26 million U.S. veterans after an apparently random burglary at the home of a computer analyst, Veterans Affairs Secretary Jim Nicholson said Monday.

    Burglars made off with a computer disc that contained the veterans' names, Social Security numbers and birth dates during a break-in this month at the home of a department data analyst, Nicholson told reporters.

    Nicholson and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said there was no indication that the information has been misused.

    The missing data does not include health records or financial information, the department said. It does include some disability ratings and data on some veterans' spouses. (Watch the implications of the security breach -- 2:23)

    Nicholson said the analyst has been placed on administrative leave during the investigation but that no "ulterior motive" is suspected. The analyst is a longtime employee of the department but was not authorized to take the information home, he said.

    "He took this home to work with it on a project he was working on, in clear violation of policies and procedures," the secretary said.

    Nicholson disclosed few details about the theft, citing an investigation by his department's inspector general and the FBI. But he told CNN earlier, "We think that it wasn't a targeted burglary."

    "They weren't after this [data]," he told CNN. "There's a pattern of these kind of burglaries in this neighborhood."

    Nicholson said the theft is "disturbing," but that there is no immediate reason for veterans to believe "anything unsavory is going on."

    But the missing information could be gold for electronic identity thieves, who operate hundreds of Internet sites where personal information is bought and sold.

    "It's a pretty dire situation," said Rutrell Yasin, technology editor of Federal Computer Week, which covers computer and information technology issues in the federal government. "You have to hope that information is not in the hands of people who know what to do with it."

    Yasin said the incident should be a wake-up call to federal agencies.

    "They should certainly have the necessary security on their computers, secure communications links that would protect personal data," Yasin told CNN.

    Gonzales and Deborah Platt Majoras, the chairwoman of the Federal Trade Commission, lead the Bush administration's identity theft task force. Gonzales vowed federal prosecutors would have "zero tolerance" for anyone implicated in trafficking in veterans' personal data.

    "We have no reason to believe at this time that the identity of these veterans have been compromised," he said. "But we feel an obligation to alert veterans so that they can take the appropriate steps to protect this information."

    The VA sent a letter to veterans informing them of the stolen data. Anyone with questions can contact the agency at 1-800-333-4636 or through the federal government's Web portal,

    The FBI said its Baltimore, Maryland, field office is investigating the incident, and Gonzales said the bureau was working in conjunction with local authorities.

    Nicholson vowed to take steps to ensure such a mistake is not repeated, including mandatory security training in the next month for all employees with access to private information.

    Hearings vowed
    Several members of Congress expressed concerns about the incident.

    Sen. Larry Craig, chairman of the Veterans Affairs Committee, said Monday that all veterans should be "vigilant" in monitoring their own financial information for suspicious activity.

    "I've got to ask -- and certainly I have to ask it of not only the VA but all of government -- why can a data analyst take all of this information home?" the Idaho Republican told CNN. "That's a breach of security -- in today's concern about ID theft -- that is huge.

    "Of course, I think it awakened the secretary to the vulnerability within his own organization, and that's true, I would guess, across government," he said.

    Craig said authorities were still not certain whether the burglary was targeted or random, and he promised hearings "at the appropriate time."

    "This is something now that really deserves our overview and a review by all of government as it relates to this kind of information and how it is being handled," he said.

    Rep. Steve Buyer, Craig's counterpart in the House, said he is "deeply concerned" by the stolen data.

    "I expect VA's inspector general and the FBI to work closely together so that we can identify and eliminate the flaws that allowed this leak and prosecute any criminal acts," the Indiana Republican said in a written statement.

    "I know that VA is taking steps to notify veterans and provide help on consumer identity protection. The committee will examine this incident in the context of previous data compromises, to ensure that veterans' information is safeguarded," he said.

    CNN's Terry Frieden and Marsha Walton contributed to this report.
  6. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    What would a person who works for the guberment be doing taking a disc with 26 million people's info home? [nono] [beat]
  7. TnAndy

    TnAndy Senior Member Founding Member

    Uh...."arranging" a break-in would be my first guess.
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