Want to Buy--- Hakim

Discussion in 'Buy Sell Trade' started by Minuteman, Jul 16, 2007.


  1. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    I am looking for an Egyptian Hakim rifle. It is a semi-automatic 8mm. If any of you come across one let me know, Thanks, MM
     
  2. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

  3. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

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    Introduction
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> As the truck lumbered along the snow-covered roads that Saturday morning I was starting to think this might be a bad idea. The weatherman had called for two inches overnight and it was already pushing five as Zack and I made our way to Bowling Green, Ohio. Who would be crazy enough to go to a gun show in this weather?
    As Zack careened down the highway at a blistering 35 miles an hour, his knuckles white, he commented, “I hope the show is open when we get there.” I was just hoping the parking lot was plowed; I had already pushed the full size Ram Charger I was currently riding in out of a snow drift once that morning, and really was not looking forward to doing it again.
    When we arrived, much to my satisfaction, the parking lot had already been plowed. The lot was only about half full, in serious contrast to usual for a gun show day, when sometimes you will have to walk half a mile just to get to the doors.
    My hopes of finding anything worth while inside were remote. Luckily I was wrong. Within five minutes of walking in the doors I noted a thin man in his mid-thirties lumbering along with a rifle slung over each shoulder. Anyone who is a collector and goes to gun shows knows that half of the great deals are carried in on the backs of the fellow attendees, so I took another glance at him as he rounded the corner of a row of tables.
    That was when I saw it, a Hakim hung from his shoulder. I knew that Zack was in the market for one, so I reached for him as he strode in front of me. I frantically told him I had just spotted a Hakim and Zack wasted no time in finding and approaching the man.
    The usual questions were asked and a quick inspection took place as other attendees walked past looking for the next great deal. When I looked the rifle over I found it to be a serious oddity.
    The man showed Zack and I how the rifle worked (which is very awkward in my opinion) and how to strip it down (which is very simple). He also showed us where the safety is and produced the magazine. When inserted the magazine seemed to clank against the magazine release loudly. Pressing on the magazine release locked it into place and the clanking noise stopped.
    While I did not know much about the rifle, I did know how to judge the condition of such things, and I would say that it was in excellent condition. The bore looked great, all of the metal looked new, and aside from a scuff on the alien looking dustcover, overall it was impeccable. The stock furniture looked great, at least for a military surplus rifle.
    Zack quickly approached the subject of price meaning he was serious about buying it. I gave him a glance that said that it certainly passed my inspection. “Three hundred?” The man said over his glasses. Zack tried to play it cool, but I knew by the slight raise of his eyebrows he was boiling over with excitement on the inside, and reached for his wallet.
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    History
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> The Hakim (pronounced HA-KEEM) was the first rifle ever produced by Egypt. It was the result of a modernization effort after their very significant defeat to the new state of Israel, in 1949. This effort was originally undertaken by King Faruok, but a military coup in 1952 removed him from power. The modernization effort was continued by the army after the coup by the new leader, Gamal Abdul Nasser. Some time prior to 1955, Egypt purchased the machinery and with the help of Swedish engineers set up the tooling originally designed to produce the Swedish Ljungman AG42 Rifle. The AG42 had been produced by Sweden during WWII to supplement the already prolific Swedish Mausers. Never intended to replace the Mauser the AG42s were issued along with the Mausers to supplement their low rate of fire.
    The factory was set up in Egypt and the original AG42 was adapted to fulfill the needs of the Egyptians. The caliber of the rifle was changed from 6.5x55mm to 7.97 (8mm) Mauser, reportedly due to the large amounts of 8mm Mauser ammunition left over from WWII in the country at the time. There were also other modifications to the AG42 to produce the Hakim, the rifles were different in appearance, however they operated in pretty much the same way.
    The Hakim served in the second Arab-Israeli war in 1956 and the third Arab-Israeli war (also known as the “six day war”) in 1967. Neither of these conflicts gave the Hakim or Egypt for that matter, any particular distinction. A large number of Hakims were reportedly captured in both conflicts and if that is the case, these rifles were either sold to another nation, destroyed or (hopefully) setting in some Israeli warehouse waiting for the next importer to find them. The Hakim was pretty much a reserve rifle during the six day war and was totally replaced by the Rashid, a smaller version of the rifle chambered in 7.62x39mm by the 1960s and the Egyptian Maddi AK47 derivative by the 1970s.
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    Method of Operation
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> The Hakim, like the earlier AG42, operates on the “Direct Gas Impingement” system, later used on the infamous AR rifle series. In this system, upon firing, gas is bled off via a gas port, from behind the bullet as it exits the barrel. The bled off gas is re-directed back through a stainless steel gas tube and hits a concave area in the front of the bolt carrier. This unlocks the bolt, which uses a dropping wedge for lockup, and propels it and the bolt carrier rearward. The extractor on the bolt head grabs the rim of the spent cartridge case and pulls it out of the chamber as the bolt continues to the rear; the case is then ejected via a fixed ejector. Once the bolt and carrier are propelled fully to the rear and the empty case is clear from the rifle, the return spring pushes the bolt and carrier forward, stripping another round from the magazine and locking it in place. The Hakim’s gas system is adjustable via a small, spring loaded valve located on the top of the rifle. The valve can be used to regulate how much gas passes through the gas tube, and uses a head shaped like a slice of pie to tell the operator where it is set. Egypt in the 50’s, like Iraq today, was a huge ammo dump and variations in different lots of 8mm ammo is believed to be the reason behind this feature.
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> <table bordercolorlight="#808080" bordercolordark="#808080" style="border-collapse: collapse;" id="table3" align="left" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="220"> <tbody><tr> <td> [​IMG]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>The Hakim Gas valve, set in the “Normal” Position, it’s pointed back at the Rifle’s receiver.</td> </tr> </tbody></table> The “Normal” setting for this valve is when the tip of the piece of pie is facing directly back at the rifle’s receiver (figure 2) and will generally allow the Hakim to function with about any 8mm round. To decrease the amount of gas used in the system, turn the valve clockwise with the rifle’s muzzle pointed downrange, to increase it, turn it counter-clockwise. A note should be added here to not adjust the valve counter-clockwise past the “normal” setting, as the valve will fly apart and is a bit of a challenge to get back together.
    The valve was designed to be adjusted with a special tool. TAPCO reportedly made reproductions of it a few years back, but one could likely be fashioned relatively easily out of a socket or other implement.
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    Rifle Details
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> The Hakim has an overall length of 47&3/4 inches (Nearly four feet!) and an overall unloaded weight of just over ten pounds. This is pretty heavy by any standard, and around the same length as a Mosin-Nagant Model 91-30. It has a full length butt stock that most American shooters would feel comfortable using. Handling the rifle has led me to realize that I would not like lugging a Hakim through the desert. The rifle uses a detachable ten round box magazine for feeding, but like many of its contemporaries was designed to use stripper clips as its primary method of reloading. The magazine release, similar to that of an AK47, uses a built-in locking device to hold it in place once it has been properly seated into the rifle. An unusual stripper clip charger is located on top of the dust cover, which is used by first inserting the loaded clip parallel to the rifle, in the grooves of it, pushing the clip forward and then rotating it 90 degrees so it is then seated on top of the magazine before pushing down on the top cartridge to load the rifle. The reason for this unusual method has never been definitively explained to my knowledge.

    The rifle’s sights are serviceable and well designed. The front sight is dovetailed into the integral muzzle brake on the front of the barrel (figure 3) and is a post with a protective globe. The front sight is adjustable for windage by first loosening the front locking screw and then turning the screw on the side of the sight block. The rear sight is a standard ladder, similar to many military rifles at or before this period of history, with elevation adjustments starting at 100 meters and moving up to 1000.
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> [​IMG]</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> The muzzle brake, front sight and bayonet lug. Note that the muzzle brake is machined integral with the barrel with the front sight dovetailed on top of it!</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> The barrel is 25 inches long and is machined with a large integral muzzle brake on the front. The brake, along with the rifle’s weight, makes recoil virtually nonexistent. That said however, the amount of noise and blast is very significant, when you touch off a round in a Hakim, you feel the energy in the pit of your stomach. I personally wonder how many deaf Egyptians in their sixties are around due to this. The barrel also has a provision for mounting a knife style bayonet that attaches to the front of the brake and secures via a lug on the bottom of the front barrel band. The rifle uses a triangular shaped dustcover and bolt carrier in its operation, giving it an odd appearance. The dustcover is equipped with a brass deflector attached to its front (figure 4), which most shooters believe to be an operating handle. The cover was originally designed to be used by the operator grasping the grooves stamped into it approximately at its midpoint and moving it in the desired direction. Most shooters, however, use the brass defector as an operating handle and I personally cannot think of anything wrong with this.
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> [​IMG]</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> Note the Cocking serrations on the dustcover, the strange stripper clip loading apparatus on the top of the gun, and the brass deflector, which is commonly used to cock the rifle.</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> Fit and finish is above average, especially compared to anything else that has come out of the middle-east. I once owned an Egyptian Maddi AK47 and it is hard to believe that it came from the same country that produced the Hakim years before. If this rifle were to be produced today in an American factory, I would not be able to afford it. There are virtually no tool marks on the majority of the rifle, whether hidden or concealed, and most of the parts appear to be milled out of blocks of forged steel. </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top">
    Loading and Firing Procedures
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> The Hakim’s safety is a small lever that swings to the left (figure 5) and right (figure 6) side of the rifle, located to the rear of the receiver. The safely is seated in its own mechanism, which is removable for takedown. With the muzzle pointed downrange, flip the safety fully to the right for “safe” and the left for “fire”. The safety also plays an important role in the operation of the rifle, which I will go into now. </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top">
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    Safety lever at “Fire” position.
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    Safety lever at “Safe” Position
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    </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> The rifles bolt, bolt carrier and dustcover setup are very unusual by American standards. To operate the rifle, assuming the bolt is forward, push forward on the dustcover until you hear an audible click. Then retract the cover, which will move the bolt and carrier to the rear. What happens next depends on where the safety is and if you have a magazine in place:
    • If the safety is in the “safe” position, the three components can be moved rearward together until stopped by safety mechanism.
    • If the safely is off and there is no magazine in place, once the three components are moved fully rearward, the bolt and carrier will slam forward under considerable force.
    • If a loaded magazine is in place, and the safety is off, the bolt and carrier will move forward in the same manner, stripping the first round from the magazine and chambering the rifle, now ready to fire by pulling the trigger.
    • If there is an empty magazine in place and the safety is off, the bolt and carrier will move only a fraction of an inch, being caught by the magazine catch, leaving the rifle open for loading.
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    Field Stripping Procedure
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> The Hakim is simple to take apart for routine maintenance.
    • Make sure the rifle is unloaded.
    • Remove the magazine from the rifle by pulling the retainer back and pushing the magazine release forward, then pulling down on the magazine itself.
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    • Place bolt in the forward position.
    • Flip the safety halfway between the “safe” and “fire” positions.
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    • Lift up on the safety mechanism and remove it from the rifle.
    • Slide the dustcover off the rifle and remove the recoil spring.
    • Pull back on the bolt carrier and slide it off the rifle.
    • Remove the bolt from the rifle by pushing on the bolt face, and dropping it out.
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> Further disassembly can be undertaken at this point, but unless you have a real good reason for it, don’t go any further. Be sure to pay special attention to the gas port above the chamber. Also clean the gas tube by squirting a gun scrubber in it or using AR-15 gas tube mops (long pipe cleaners) available from anyone who sells AR parts and accessories. Reassembly is in reverse order.
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    Shooting the Hakim
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    Zack Shoots His Prize from the Bench.
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> On a mild Saturday, Zack and I made a trip to the range to test the Hakim. The rifle was tested at 50 yards from the bench for initial sight in and accuracy testing. It was then removed from the bench and several hundred rounds in total were put through the gun from various shooting positions, some other drills were also performed at distances ranging from 25 to 60 yards. We were unable to shoot out to 100 yards due to time limits at the range.Three loads were selected, all of them being inexpensive surplus. There were three reasons for this; first, anyone who owns a Hakim is unlikely to hunt with it, so tests of hunting ammo would probably be worthless to a real or perspective owner. Second, the gun was designed with military ammo in mind and I was interested in seeing what the actual accuracy of the gun was with these types of loads. Third, the Hakim was designed to be used with the variety of surplus loads in Egypt at the time of its introduction. As such I was interested in seeing if it would reliably function with these loads with the gas system set at the “normal” setting with no adjustment.
    Because we were accuracy testing at 50 yards, five shot groups were fired for accuracy. The rifle was secured to a Lohman site vice from the bench. The best group of the day came with the Yugoslavian 196-grain surplus load. It turned in this nice group of exactly one inch.
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    </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> The other two loads were Romanian steel cased surplus and Turkish surplus on stripper clips. Both of these loads shot larger, more sporadic groups. We shot the Turkish surplus very little as it very old and we have encountered misfires, hangfires and other such maladies with it prior and did not consider it worthy to fire in a semi-auto. The Romanian surplus was the only other load shot extensively in the gun and was the only load that caused the gun to malfunction. The load caused the magazine to fail to lock open after the last shot and also caused a loaded round to stovepipe out of the right side of the receiver. I personally believe that the rifle’s gas system would need a few clicks of adjustment to properly fire this round. I say this because Zack noted gas blowing in his face when firing off a string and the action seemed unnecessarily violent. We lacked a suitable adjustment tool and decided to conduct the rest of the testing with the Yugoslavian loads.
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> [​IMG]</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> The only malfunction with the Hakim is pictured here. Note the Stove-piped loaded round near the open portion of the receiver. </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> The first thing I noted was that after an extended firing session, the for-end did not heat up. I stuck the muzzle end in the snow and noted it sizzling, but my hand did not even become slightly warm. I also noted that the gun’s recoil was almost non-existent, when the trigger was squeezed; the gun made a horrendous noise, but barely jumped. Because of the gun’s muzzle brake, the weight, and gas operation, recoil was a non-issue. Ejection was positive, with the empty cases flying around fifteen to twenty feet forward and to the right of the rifle, the brass deflector certainly worked well.I also noted that the gun was not suited well to close-in shooting. During the conflicts the rifle was involved in, shooting of this type would be only somewhat likely. The gun was difficult to start swinging up from the low ready position and even harder to stop once it was where you wanted it. Compared to a FAL, AR10 or HK G3, it’s like shooting with a telephone pole. It is certainly a “battle rifle” if there ever was one.
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    </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> Zack taking a few shots offhand. Believe it or not the rifle had just fired as this picture was taken. If you can lift the Hakim, you can shoot it.</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> The Turkish stripper clips we were using did not work for the Hakim, so we wound up loading individual rounds into the magazine through the top of the receiver. This worked out suitably and would work well for the casual shooter with a minimum of trouble. </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top">
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    </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> Lacking suitable stripper clips, the Hakim was loaded singly as shown here. Be sure to turn the safety on before undertaking this procedure.</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> One final note of caution here, ALWAYS TURN ON THE SAFETY WHEN OT SHOOTING THE HAKIM RIFLE! The bolt carrier moves forward with considerable force and can ruin your day very quickly! On the range, Zack attempted to clear the jam discussed earlier. He did this by pushing forward on the dust cover of the rifle until it engaged the bolt carrier and bolt with a click and then moved it back out of the way. What he forgot to do was flick the safety on before he moved the cover back and, while reaching into the receiver to remove the offending round, the bolt carrier and dust cover engaged the safety mechanism, slamming the bolt and carrier forward onto his thumb.
    This resulted in muffled clack, a string of profanity, the Hakim flung into the snow and poor old Zack hopping up and down, cursing and holding his swelling thumb. Lucky for Zack, I had the forethought to pack along a first aid kit in my shooting bag that day. I reached for it as Zack shoved his thumb in the snow while telling me in no uncertain terms how much it hurt. I dug the first aid kit out and just prior to treatment snapped a picture of the wound so others would heed the above warning. (Some just TALK about getting their thumb smashed, but Zack had the forethought to show us what it would look like! Everyone thank him now.) Be careful!
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    </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> Zack’s unfortunate case of “Hakim Thumb.” Be careful of that bolt! Turn the safety on to do anything to the rifle but shoot it.</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top">
    Conclusion
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> After handling the Hakim, shooting it, and having it reside at my homestead for a few days for this article; I have to say it is on my want list. It is a reliable, accurate and serviceable rifle. The fact that I would happily pay a bit more then Zack paid for his (a steal at three hundred bucks) should make everyone aware of what I think of it. The Hakim does have its fair share of downsides. The gun is too heavy for anything other then plinking and maybe NRA High-power competition and it is loud as hell. I have seen used specimens where the previous owner cut the forend down significantly and deleted the handguard to reduce the weight. I have seen other Hakims that have had the muzzle brake cut off to reduce the noise. I would consider doing these types of modifications if the Hakims were stacked deep and being sold cheap, but now they have become rare enough to command premium prices. Don’t alter any Hakim!
    As I stated before, the Hakim is an interesting and fun to shoot rifle. I would own one myself, and that is the best compliment I can pay it. It would be a valuable addition to any surplus rifle collection.
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    SPECIAL THANKS
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> I would like to give a special thanks to Zachary Ziviski, who contributed the rifle and the injured thumb. Without him, this article could not have be written.</td></tr></tbody></table>
     
  4. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    Cool, Thanks!!!!!!!!! That's what I have been looking for. I have a recent acquisition that shoots 8mm and was wanting something else to use this round in. The Hakim has Arabic numbers on the graduated rear sight but after 14 years in the Middle East I can read them. I hadn't seen the article above, thanks for posting it. Now I have to go spend some money, later...
     
  5. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    Damn you Seacowboys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![beat]

    I had never heard of Gunbroker.com until you posted that link.
    First it was Melbo's garage sale and now I have the internet and a credit card and can buy guns and ammo on line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I am now working to support my habit. I spend more at work than I do on my days off. I just can't control it[booze]

    Hello, my name is Minuteman, and I'm a gunaholic :eek:

    Somebody stop me. I am buying guns that I don't have any use for. And then of course I have to have ammo and slings and clips and,and, and ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

    Oh hey it's Thursday, I got paid today, got to go, there's some auctions I need to bid on [touchdown][gone]


    Can I work for you SC on my days off. It's either that or I stand on the corner with a sign

    "Will work for Ammo"
     
  6. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    It's definately a sickness but never worry, I'll give all your purchases a good home if they run you out of space[winkthumb]
     
  7. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    I'll be happy to transport the overflow to the good home. For a pick of the litter, of course --. Maybe a nice MN? (I'm immune to the sickness, doancha know -- [LMAO][LMAO][LMAO][LMAO][LMAO][LMAO])
     
  8. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    Thanks for the support guys!!!

    I will just have to buy a bigger gun safe. I wonder if they have any on Gunbroker? But then I will have to build a bigger house and a private gun range and,and, ahhhhhhhhh someone stop the insanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  9. jason0863

    jason0863 Monkey+++

    how much are you looking to spend?
     
  10. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    I've seen them going for $400 to $500. I got "Sniped" on Gunbroker on one for $460. I had the high bid at $450 and a dealer came in at the last minute and stole the bid and I didn't see it.
    There is one coming up that has a $400 high bid right now. I am watching it. But I got kinda sidetracked. Bought a FAL a Mosin Nagant and a 700 Remington. So may need to wait a couple of weeks before I bid on anything else.
    You know someone who has one?
     
  11. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    pm sent for one for 295.00
     
  12. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    MM, I can't believe you haven't been on Gunbroker before. I bought my first gun on gunbroker in about 97' or 98'. I have purchased lots of stuff on their auctions. I also use it to check prices.
     
  13. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    Before I came on here a couple of years ago I hadn't ever spent much time on the internet. Didn't buy my first computer until a few years ago. I am not all that technical. I don't have an I-pod, a DVR, tivo, or any of that. My phone has a camera in it but don't ask me how to take a picture on it. Even now the only web sites I go to are here and a couple of other gun sites. Maybe a google search every now and then for something. I subscribe to about a dozen on-line newsletters. But that's about the extent of my net use.

    I checked out the one Quig sent me. A good price but missing some of the hardware. There is one on Gunbroker coming up in a couple of days that I will probably bid on.
     
  14. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Welcome to the dark side Mr. T. My first purchase on Gunbroker was a Ruger Black Hawk .357 Mag for $270. New. Of course that was about ten to twelve years ago. I still have it. Actually it is at my Father-In-Law's house. I don't believe it has ever been fired.
     
  15. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    I too, must confess that I spend more money on Gunbroker that I would like to admit. I try not to focus on it as being a problem or sickness. I can control it, damn it! I could if I really wanted to. I live in Alabama, for christ sake, and my drivers license is still in Florida so I have to send everything to a FFL in Pensacola; that's a couple hours there and back so don't make sense to just one gun at a time. I can control it.
     
  16. groovy mike

    groovy mike Immortal

    <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=500 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=adheader bgColor=#ccccff>Rifle </TD><TD bgColor=#ccccff></TD></TR><TR><TD class=bluetext>Egyptian Hakim, 8mm, semi-auto, VGC, $575 Durham, NY (518) 275-6066 </TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


    From my local classifieds
     
  17. Pitdog

    Pitdog Dark Lord

    Got one. Never fired it, took it in on trade, may be willing to sell it or trade it. Less than 400$.
     
  18. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    PM sent.
     
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