WARNING !! ATTENTION!! Here it Comes!!!!!!!

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  1. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

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  2. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    True, but by someone else. Historically, someone else stood in the box for us.

    Yes, there is because the reality is someone else paid for it with their youth, their blood or their lives.

    This says it better than I ever will be able to say it.

    It is the soldier, not the reporter,
    who has given us freedom of the press.
    It is the soldier, not the poet,
    who has given us freedom of speech.
    It is the soldier, not the campus organizer,
    who has given us the freedom to demonstrate.
    It is the soldier, not the lawyer,
    who has given us the right to a fair trial.
    It is the soldier, not the politician,
    who has given us the right to vote.
    It is the soldier, who salutes the flag,
    who serves beneath the flag,
    and whose coffin is draped by the flag,
    who allows the protester to burn the flag.
    (Charles M. Province)
     
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  3. Strykar

    Strykar Monkey

    I'm 9 years reg force army to date myself. I'm not disagreeing with you.
     
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  4. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    30 months light infantry in SE Asia. Airborne with a 90 day CIB. ;)
     
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  5. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    The CIA has never been known to take mentally deranged idiots because they cannot be controlled.

    I am not being ignorant but anyone trained to do that kind of work would have killed a lot more people. The attacks would have been better planned and more "efficient" because they are professionals and not nut jobs.

    Ignoring the schizophrenics on our streets with some taking fanapt is 0bama's game, not anyone who wants the Second upheld.
     
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  6. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    LOL yeah, I trained with these "Trainer" AT4's. They fire a 9mm handgun cartridge, it's not a rocket launcher.
     
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  7. fedorthedog

    fedorthedog Monkey+++

    Your car and driver license are not protected by the constitution so gov regulates and taxes them. If you think that having them win on registration wont lead to some type of heavy tax to make gun ownership untenable, your naive. If they cant take it they will make it cost so much you cant afford it. The end game of any despot is control, you cant control an armed population. Even in the 1400 gov did not allow the peasant to to own military weapons (swords) check history and see what happened.
     
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  8. Mindgrinder

    Mindgrinder Karma Pirate Ninja|RIP 12-25-2017

    Replace every "given" with "taken" and you'll start to understand what your country has done to 50+ countries since WW2.
    If you think the rest of the world is gonna feel sorry for you when you collapse...you're saddly mistaken.

    G
     
  9. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    I'm not real smart, so please enlighten me by listing these 50+ countries and how the American people have harmed them.

    Sure, politicians have backed poor excuses for leaders who haven't had their people's best interests in mind for some politically expedient reason, but the American people had no part of that and probably didn't know. The most you can blame on most Americans is malign neglect and self-centeredness.

    You know who's really going to suffer if the US collapses? Africa and all the other cesspools politicians send tax dollars to.

    As for foreigners not feeling sorry for us...I'd be willing to bet they'd be the first ones in line to come here given the chance. Last time I checked, there is still a long waiting list to immigrate here.
     
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  10. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    As I don't give a hoot about Greece or the crisis in the EU; my guess is they would return the same to us. Only America sends huge amounts of money as aid to bolster their economies. So without a doubt we would be missed same as the illegals would miss being cut off. So the giving has been our cash, leaving our doors open as they levy huge tariffs on our goods sold their and everything else which keeps the playing field tilted in their direction.

    From Japan and Germany to today's Iraq and Afghanistan; America paid to destroy them and most likely paid even more to rebuild them. It was impossible for America to take the rights they never had in the first place.

    Point is, they will miss their free lunch same as anyone else would.
     
  11. Mindgrinder

    Mindgrinder Karma Pirate Ninja|RIP 12-25-2017

    No problem m8..most Americans arent real smart so I don't mind enlightening u.

    IRAN 1946 Nuclear threat Soviet troops told to leave north.
    YUGOSLAVIA 1946 Nuclear threat, naval Response to shoot-down of US plane.
    URUGUAY 1947 Nuclear threat Bombers deployed as show of strength.
    GREECE 1947-49 Command operation U.S. directs extreme-right in civil war.
    GERMANY 1948 Nuclear Threat Atomic-capable bombers guard Berlin Airlift.
    CHINA 1948-49 Troops/Marines evacuate Americans before Communist victory.
    PHILIPPINES 1948-54 Command operation CIA directs war against Huk Rebellion.
    PUERTO RICO 1950 Command operation Independence rebellion crushed in Ponce.
    KOREA 1951-53 (-?) Troops, naval, bombing , nuclear threats U.S./So. Korea fights China/No. Korea to stalemate; A-bomb threat in 1950, and against China in 1953. Still have bases.
    IRAN 1953 Command Operation CIA overthrows democracy, installs Shah.
    VIETNAM 1954 Nuclear threat French offered bombs to use against seige.
    GUATEMALA 1954 Command operation, bombing, nuclear threat CIA directs exile invasion after new gov't nationalized U.S. company lands; bombers based in Nicaragua.
    EGYPT 1956 Nuclear threat, troops Soviets told to keep out of Suez crisis; Marines evacuate foreigners.
    LEBANON l958 Troops, naval Army & Marine occupation against rebels.
    IRAQ 1958 Nuclear threat Iraq warned against invading Kuwait.
    CHINA l958 Nuclear threat China told not to move on Taiwan isles.
    PANAMA 1958 Troops Flag protests erupt into confrontation.
    VIETNAM l960-75 Troops, naval, bombing, nuclear threats Fought South Vietnam revolt & North Vietnam; one million killed in longest U.S. war; atomic bomb threats in l968 and l969.
    CUBA l961 Command operation CIA-directed exile invasion fails.
    GERMANY l961 Nuclear threat Alert during Berlin Wall crisis.
    LAOS 1962 Command operation Military buildup during guerrilla war.
    CUBA l962 Nuclear threat, naval Blockade during missile crisis; near-war with Soviet Union.
    IRAQ 1963 Command operation CIA organizes coup that killed president, brings Ba'ath Party to power, and Saddam Hussein back from exile to be head of the secret service.
    PANAMA l964 Troops Panamanians shot for urging canal's return.
    INDONESIA l965 Command operation Million killed in CIA-assisted army coup.
    DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1965-66 Troops, bombing Army & Marines land during election campaign.
    GUATEMALA l966-67 Command operation Green Berets intervene against rebels.
    DETROIT l967 Troops Army battles African Americans, 43 killed.
    UNITED STATES l968 Troops After King is shot; over 21,000 soldiers in cities.
    CAMBODIA l969-75 Bombing, troops, naval Up to 2 million killed in decade of bombing, starvation, and political chaos.
    OMAN l970 Command operation U.S. directs Iranian marine invasion.
    LAOS l971-73 Command operation, bombing U.S. directs South Vietnamese invasion; "carpet-bombs" countryside.
    SOUTH DAKOTA l973 Command operation Army directs Wounded Knee siege of Lakotas.
    MIDEAST 1973 Nuclear threat World-wide alert during Mideast War.
    CHILE 1973 Command operation CIA-backed coup ousts elected marxist president.
    CAMBODIA l975 Troops, bombing Gassing of captured ship Mayagüez, 28 troops die when copter shot down.
    ANGOLA l976-92 Command operation CIA assists South African-backed rebels.
    IRAN l980 Troops, nuclear threat, aborted bombing Raid to rescue Embassy hostages; 8 troops die in copter-plane crash. Soviets warned not to get involved in revolution.
    LIBYA l981 Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot down in maneuvers.
    EL SALVADOR l981-92 Command operation, troops Advisors, overflights aid anti-rebel war, soldiers briefly involved in hostage clash.
    NICARAGUA l981-90 Command operation, naval CIA directs exile (Contra) invasions, plants harbor mines against revolution.
    LEBANON l982-84 Naval, bombing, troops Marines expel PLO and back Phalangists, Navy bombs and shells Muslim positions. 241 Marines killed when Shi'a rebel bombs barracks.
    GRENADA l983-84 Troops, bombing Invasion four years after revolution.
    HONDURAS l983-89 Troops Maneuvers help build bases near borders.
    IRAN l984 Jets Two Iranian jets shot down over Persian Gulf.
    LIBYA l986 Bombing, naval Air strikes to topple Qaddafi gov't.
    BOLIVIA 1986 Troops Army assists raids on cocaine region.
    IRAN l987-88 Naval, bombing US intervenes on side of Iraq in war, defending reflagged tankers and shooting down civilian jet.
    LIBYA 1989 Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot down.
    VIRGIN ISLANDS 1989 Troops St. Croix Black unrest after storm.
    PHILIPPINES 1989 Jets Air cover provided for government against coup.
    PANAMA 1989 (-?) Troops, bombing Nationalist government ousted by 27,000 soldiers, leaders arrested, 2000+ killed.
    LIBERIA 1990 Troops Foreigners evacuated during civil war.
    SAUDI ARABIA 1990-91 Troops, jets Iraq countered after invading Kuwait. 540,000 troops also stationed in Oman, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Israel.
    IRAQ 1990-91 Bombing, troops, naval Blockade of Iraqi and Jordanian ports, air strikes; 200,000+ killed in invasion of Iraq and Kuwait; large-scale destruction of Iraqi military.
    KUWAIT 1991 Naval, bombing, troops Kuwait royal family returned to throne.
    IRAQ 1991-2003 Bombing, naval No-fly zone over Kurdish north, Shiite south; constant air strikes and naval-enforced economic sanctions
    LOS ANGELES 1992 Troops Army, Marines deployed against anti-police uprising.
    SOMALIA 1992-94 Troops, naval, bombing U.S.-led United Nations occupation during civil war; raids against one Mogadishu faction.
    YUGOSLAVIA 1992-94 Naval NATO blockade of Serbia and Montenegro.
    BOSNIA 1993-? Jets, bombing No-fly zone patrolled in civil war; downed jets, bombed Serbs.
    HAITI 1994 Troops, naval Blockade against military government; troops restore President Aristide to office three years after coup.
    ZAIRE (CONGO) 1996-97 Troops Troops at Rwandan Hutu refugee camps, in area where Congo revolution begins.
    LIBERIA 1997 Troops Soldiers under fire during evacuation of foreigners.
    ALBANIA 1997 Troops Soldiers under fire during evacuation of foreigners.
    SUDAN 1998 Missiles Attack on pharmaceutical plant alleged to be "terrorist" nerve gas plant.
    AFGHANISTAN 1998 Missiles Attack on former CIA training camps used by Islamic fundamentalist groups alleged to have attacked embassies.
    IRAQ 1998 Bombing, Missiles Four days of intensive air strikes after weapons inspectors allege Iraqi obstructions.
    YUGOSLAVIA 1999 Bombing, Missiles Heavy NATO air strikes after Serbia declines to withdraw from Kosovo. NATO occupation of Kosovo.
    YEMEN 2000 Naval USS Cole, docked in Aden, bombed.
    MACEDONIA 2001 Troops NATO forces deployed to move and disarm Albanian rebels.
    UNITED STATES 2001 Jets, naval Reaction to hijacker attacks on New York, DC
    AFGHANISTAN 2001-? Troops, bombing, missiles Massive U.S. mobilization to overthrow Taliban, hunt Al Qaeda fighters, install Karzai regime, and battle Taliban insurgency. More than 30,000 U.S. troops and numerous private security contractors carry our occupation.
    YEMEN 2002 Missiles Predator drone missile attack on Al Qaeda, including a US citizen.
    PHILIPPINES 2002-? Troops, naval Training mission for Philippine military fighting Abu Sayyaf rebels evolves into combat missions in Sulu Archipelago, west of Mindanao.
    COLOMBIA 2003-? Troops US special forces sent to rebel zone to back up Colombian military protecting oil pipeline.
    IRAQ 2003-? Troops, naval, bombing, missiles Saddam regime toppled in Baghdad. More than 250,000 U.S. personnel participate in invasion. US and UK forces occupy country and battle Sunni and Shi'ite insurgencies. More than 160,000 troops and numerous private contractors carry out occupation and build large permanent bases.
    LIBERIA 2003 Troops Brief involvement in peacekeeping force as rebels drove out leader.
    HAITI 2004-05 Troops, naval Marines & Army land after right-wing rebels oust elected President Aristide, who was advised to leave by Washington.
    PAKISTAN 2005-? Missiles, bombing, covert operation CIA missile and air strikes and Special Forces raids on alleged Al Qaeda and Taliban refuge villages kill multiple civilians. Drone attacks also on Pakistani Mehsud network.
    SOMALIA 2006-? Missiles, naval, troops, command operation Special Forces advise Ethiopian invasion that topples Islamist government; AC-130 strikes, Cruise missile attacks and helicopter raids against Islamist rebels; naval blockade against "pirates" and insurgents.
    SYRIA 2008 Troops Special Forces in helicopter raid 5 miles from Iraq kill 8 Syrian civilians
    YEMEN 2009-? Missiles, command operation Cruise missile attack on Al Qaeda kills 49 civilians; Yemeni military assaults on rebels
    LIBYA 2011-? Bombing, missiles, command operation NATO coordinates air strikes and missile attacks against Qaddafi government during uprising by rebel army.


    Duck Ya! America World Police.

    I could speak at great length aboot how American copyright and patent laws and world wide lobby has killed millions by denying them affordable medicine and stunted the growth and innovation of billions if you'd like...

    G
     
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  12. Mindgrinder

    Mindgrinder Karma Pirate Ninja|RIP 12-25-2017

    Dude....you guys are BROKE. All this foreign "aid" you're talking aboot is printed fiat currency backed by nothing
    It rarely if ever reaches the people it's intended to "help".
    I'm sure your shadow government makes 10x as much as you "give" by shipping drugs into the countries you're "helping" anyway.

    Stay off my lawn plz.

    Dog will bite.

    G
     
  13. Mindgrinder

    Mindgrinder Karma Pirate Ninja|RIP 12-25-2017

    HELP I'M HUNGRY!

    DEAR 'Merica, plz sent moar GMO dispensing restaurants and Walmarts to Canada!

    If the world could eat lies and deceit...America would be a global bread basket.

    G
     
  14. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    Speaking of copyright infringment: you should give Dr. Grossman credit before plagiarizing HIS view of how the world is.

    History of U.S. Military Interventions since 1890

    Perhaps you should go troll another board where your . . . I mean, where a left-wing academic's views will be appreciated.
     
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  15. Mindgrinder

    Mindgrinder Karma Pirate Ninja|RIP 12-25-2017

    Touche.

    THE USA has invaded 69 countries since world war two!!!! We must throw the wrench in the gears.

    And trolling? Pffft...It's social engineering - not trolling.
    Ya'll can sure dish it out with "The world owes us everything!!!111one" but when someone points out how much your country has screwed the world u just can't take it.
    Pride b4 a fall?
    Besides....what are u gonna do aboot it? Call me a liberal or something?

    *smirk*

    G
     
  16. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

    While you are making lists why don't you make ones of the acts of China and Russia in international affairs while you are at it. You know, just to show both sides of things and show how impartial you are...
     
  17. Mindgrinder

    Mindgrinder Karma Pirate Ninja|RIP 12-25-2017

    Plz invite some chineese and russians here...I could use the help.
    Besides I'm sure one of your 3-letter agencies already has that list....it's somewhere between the list of gun-owners, tea-party terrorists, Ron Paul supporters, liberals and other "threats" to your 'eedom. You can FOIA request it after you retire at 102 years old with no pension.

    *wink*
     
  18. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    NWS-L
     
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  19. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Hypocrites ...... by definition : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings.
     
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  20. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

    Since you have no idea of what my personal financial situation is, II think we can all agree that you have absolutely no idea of what age I retired at or am planning on retiring at.

    All nations engage in some pretty shady stuff in the name of their own national interests. This is a well established fact. When nations can't go to war with each other for fear of the conflict spreading to apocalyptic proportions, they tend to fight wars by proxy. We do it, Russia does it, China does it, UK does it. That is part of the way things are. Humans are by nature agressive. Evolution has made us that way.
     
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