We have always been at war with Eastasia

Discussion in 'Tin Foil Hat Lounge' started by Oltymer, Sep 16, 2019.

  1. Oltymer

    Oltymer Monkey++

    Saturday - it was drones from Yeman, Sunday - it was missles fired from within Iraq, Monday - back to the drone story, but constantly morphing, with the Saudi's claiming the weapons used ?? were Iranian. BS BS BS BS forever!

    Remember the Maine - 1898 - war with Spain, subsequent investigations showed the Maine blew itself up with coal dust from it's own coal bins.

    WWI Lusitania sunk by German U-boat - 1917 - later investigations showed the ship was packed with British ordnance, but was supposed to only be carrying civilian passengers - oops - US citizens onboard and killed - US enters WWI over incident, which is still shrouded in secrecy...

    Tonkin Gulf Incident - 1964 - reason for involvement in SE Asia and war against N. Viet-Nam - proven fabrication to give reason for further American involvement in the war...

    9/16/19 - Tulsi Gabbard says "USA acting like Saudi Arabia's bitch" - at least somebody has it right...

    Am I nuts, or is this shit actually going down?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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  2. techsar

    techsar Monkey+++

    The US just cannot keep out of other countries' business...
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  3. Oltymer

    Oltymer Monkey++

    Monday afternoon 9/16/19 - US officials have told FOX NEWS that the attack originated on Iranian soil.....

    Funny that nobody has blamed the Russians yet - I guess just give it time...
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  4. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

    drones plus cruise missiles are small aircraft they have digital autopilots and can manuever

    they can absolutely launch from iran, turn and fly into iraqi airspace and make it appear that they came from Southern iraq or jus about anyplace in the area

    aint sayn that is wut the did but it is 100% doable

    we probably have the missile fragments by the way and the radar tracks and other intel proving it really wuz iran

    iran makes a lot of their own weapon parts, they also get a ton of their stuff from china, russia, north korea and others. and sometimes they illegally smuggle parts from Western countries.

    here are the ballistic missile fragments from a previous attack [ these are ballistic missiles not cruise missiles and they are **not** from this attack that took place on 09/14/2019 ]



    and if ya need drones built send bitcoinz and call Lucy

    just sayn
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  5. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    I love my country,, but I hate my government. There’s things going in our government,, and our government is doing things in other countries governments that I’m sure shouldn’t be happening. I hate to say this,, but maybe there’s a damned good reason some of them hate us.
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  6. Altoidfishfins

    Altoidfishfins Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    Let Saudi Arabia handle it.
    We can sell them JDAMs and the Cruise Missiles but that should be the extent of our involvement.
    It's long past time that these countries fight their own wars.
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  7. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    I think what is definite is that the Powers That Be want a war with Iran...and they will continue trying to instigate one and use their media outlets to whip up the fervor. But, make no mistake, it will happen just like all the rest.

    It happens like this every time! Remember that young Kuwaiti girl testifying before Congress with tears in her eyes about how the Iraqi soldiers were tossing babies out of their incubators and onto the hospital floor? Lies then, lies now, just like the "Babies on bayonets in Belgium" trying to get us into WW1. It's all BS!!! WW2 was the same BS and they did everything to drag us kicking and screaming into a war to the point that they basically forced the Japanese to attack us. What other options did the Japanese have since they were at war with China? And, we know now that our ships were firing and depth charging German submarines on the direct order of President FDR long before war was declared. Hell, FDR had the British lock up an American diplomat and keep him incarcerated the entire war because he stumbled upon secret documents showing the illegal things FDR was doing for Churchill. He was lucky he wasn't killed!

    We haven't fought a just war since 1776 or 1812. We are simply cannon fodder for the real powers.
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  8. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Bidness as usual.
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  9. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grudge Monkey

    Let it rain! We cant stop it!
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  10. BenP

    BenP Monkey++ Site Supporter+

    I think Iran is trying to provoke us into war but I cannot figure out their end game. They must know we would wipe them off the map. My only thought is that they are working with Russia and China to drag us into a ground war for some reason.

    I hope we just send 50 cruise missiles and move on.
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  11. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grudge Monkey

    Iran hates the world, and especially Israel, to them, Israel is an affront to Islam and that they occupy the Ancient seat of religon is especially offensive to them! Iran hates any western culture, and any one who embraces western ways and freedoms! And, they are super pissed at the arms deal went south and the embargoes that followed, effectively making them especially pissed at the west! Add in the anti nuke restrictions and you have a shit storm boiling over! Frankly, the only reason no one has wiped Israel off the map is they dont have the means yet, rest assured, once they do, they will try!
  12. snake6264

    snake6264 Combat flip flop douchebag

    It was time to clean out Iran in the early 80's and it still needs to be clean just like the junk drawer in the kitchen
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  13. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    What reason do we have to go to war with Iran? We have no reason. Having said that, we will, without a doubt, go to war with them.
    And, probably, for no other reason than to make Israel safe... Personally, I am as fed up with Israel as much as I am fed up with Iran!
    Furthermore, I have more grievances against Israel that I do with Iran! The biggest being they're constantly using the USA as a cash cow. Yeah, I am still pissed their Lobbyists manage to hoodwink us out of $3+ Billion a year for the next 10 years. Talk about who is pulling the real strings... Wake up America!
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  14. Merkun

    Merkun furious dreamer

    As you say, we have no justifiable reason. Let the proxies (Saudi for us, and Yemen or? for Iran) fight it out while we maintain "plausible deniability." Our military industrial complex needs to keep sharp, just in case.
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  15. Tempstar

    Tempstar Old and crochety Site Supporter+

    As long as the embargoes are in place, Saudi profit stays high. If we allow Iran to freely export oil again Saudi loses money. Therefore we must have new and exciting ways to justify the embargoes. And Israel? They are a dog on a US leash. They can and will bomb Tehran off the map if we quit paying them not to. Then the whole Muslim world will attack Israel and we'll be drawn into it.
    See? All about the money....
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  16. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    @Tempstar "And Israel? They are a dog on a US leash."
    Or, perhaps it is WE who are on THEIR leash...sometimes I truly wonder.
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  17. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    I'm not buying it.
    10 drones
    2 facilities
    coordinated attacks
    no casualties.
    Just too convenient.
    The only ones I can see benefiting from a confrontation would be the Saudis, US, Military Industry and Infrastructure industry.
    smells like US sponsored false flag to me. Can I prove it? No, just a gut feeling that this is a setup.
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  18. Oltymer

    Oltymer Monkey++

    Monday - 9/17/19 - Saudi's report production back at full capacity - WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  19. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Do you have a reference for that? I haven't found any report of that thus far...most seem to report that it will take some weeks to get back to pre-attack levels of production.
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2019
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  20. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    Sooner or later East and West will collide and it won't be pretty.

    @Ura-Ki , off topic, but when I first glanced at the title of this thread I read "We have always been at war with Estacada*". Curious if you had the same reaction?

    * For those non Orygunians it's a small Oregon town on the Clackamas River** and the last place to get food and gas as you go upstream. Also the last refuge of Lew's Dari-Freeze and AO of a true master gunsmith who goes by the handle of Velzey on other forums.

    ** Rudyard Kipling having caught a salmon on the Clackamas:
    “I have lived!

    “The American continent may now sink under the sea, for I have taken the best that it yields, and the best was neither dollars, love nor real estate.

    “Hear now, gentlemen of the Punjab Fishing Club, who whip the reaches of the Tavi, and you who painfully import trout to Octamund I went fishing, and you shall envy.”
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2019
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