We the People!

Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by VisuTrac, Jan 8, 2012.

  1. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

  2. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

  3. radpug

    radpug Monkey+

    YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

    Our votes don't seem to matter.
    Regardless of which party is in control, it's
    The same crap.
    It's taken colusion from both party's.
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  4. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    Exactly why I am a free-thinking Independent Conservative now - to Hades with the Donkey and the Elephant. We The People need to have a big nationwide BBQ with these critters.
    Fire them and their foreign masters.
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  5. radpug

    radpug Monkey+

    The problem is their is no one else to vote for in the elections.
    Their is no strong 3rd party to put in congress or the senate.

    Their is only the status quo nothing more nothing less.
    We need a strong alternative party.
    My hopes that the tea party would become that 3rd party is over.
    It's been relegated to an arm of the republican party.
  6. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++


    What state are you in.
    In michigan, we've got the Independent party, the green party, the socialist party, etc.

    I am pretty sure than none of these parties are part of the mainstream.

    Only R i'm going to vote for is Ron Paul. All other seats, offices I'm going with a third party candidate. I mean seriously, could they actually do any worse than what we got now?

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  7. radpug

    radpug Monkey+

    That's the major problem none of those party's will ever get going
    To capture enough votes to make a difference.
    We get some people running as independence but they go no where.
  8. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    Here is a novel idea. How about you running?
    As an independent, run for mayor, city commissioner, drain commissioner, alderman, secretary, treasurer or other office.

    If your current elected officials aren't up to snuff, YOU can make a change. All it takes is one to get the ball rolling.

    Just Sayin' we need to get it going from the bottom up anyway.

  9. radpug

    radpug Monkey+

    Bottom up is the only way that things will ever get straighter up.
    I agree with that.
    I would be happy to vote for someone whom shares similar idea
    As I do.
  10. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    We need to BAN all political Parties. Let the candidate stand on his/her own values and demonstrated performance, nothing more. No corporate funding, no Special Interests or Lobbyests. Only public fundraising - if the public doesn't support him, he fails - period.
  11. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    At best what they will accomplish is splitting the vote which will be to 0bama's advantage.
  12. Onestory

    Onestory Monkey+

    This type of thinking is what has gotten us to the place we are currently.

    A third party vote will split the R vote and get the D elected...then, next election...That "loser" independent candidate is getting NO coverage because he only got 6% of the vote last time. He's unelectable!

    Maybe we need to lose a battle to win a war?
  13. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    This is a myth that has been propagated to scare people away from voting outside party lines. A strong independent would drain as much vote from the donkeys as the elephants. This is the same outright lies that they are spouting about Ron Paul being "Unelectable". Really? In 2008 he got more cross over votes (democrats dropping their party and registering as Republicans to vote for him) than any candidate in history, since, and including Ronald Reagan.
    If he were to run as a third party he would get an enormous voting block from both parties and from independents. Maybe not enough to win but enough to squash that myth.
    I absolutely refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils ever again. If RP is not on the ballot then I may seriously vote for Obama. Give the sheep what they deserve. I said that last time and I swallowed the bile and voted for Palin. But I unequivocally will never vote for Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich under any circumstances.

    Referring to the two parties, George Wallace is quoted as saying " There's not a dimes worth of difference between them" I agree.
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  14. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Some other quotes

    “Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed, and are right.”
    H.L. Mencken

    “In order to become the master, the politician poses as the servant.”
    Charles de Gaulle

    "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed{and hence clamorous to be led to safety} by menacing it with endless hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.""
    Sandeep Goswamy

    "American politics consist of two bands of baron robbers, alternately taking possession of and plundering the treasury of the state."
    Karl Marx
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