What Does Freedom Mean to You?????

My "Honor" tells me to continue to ask that question until a legitimate attempt at answering is made rather than some "come to Jesus" faith thing that mandates relying on old John Wayne Movies and trusting in politicians that use tools like the Gulf of Tonkin or the Phoenix Program, or being labeled a hippy. Serving with honor, I do understand but what I don't understand is how it relates to defending Freedom.
What iwar and projection of power or empire building does, is develop more efficient means of surveillance and havoc that will eventually be used against us here at home and already is being used to great degree.

 

I already answered and your honor is satisfied; so what is your issue?

What do you know about Phoenix?

 

Thanks for posting this. I can relate to that character quite a bit. I can only pray I have that kind of character when needed, like so many of our country's founders did in real life.

 

Larry I agree with to fight or die for this joke of a goverment and the laws they want to force on us all. With that being said I do believe with everything in my heart that our guys who die in combat or have died in combat, the L.E.O.'s who have died on the side of a dark highway, the firefighter's who die in burning buildings or the EMS guy's who die trying to save a life did not die for goverment. They died and will always be willing to die for our country, our community, our families,friends and joe citizen. They gave all for country the greatest country in the world lady America and way of life to protect and save it for future generations. They died for the love and honor of being a protector. The one who when SHTF the people have hope. As for goverment they could care less all wars and for every life that has been lost on US streets had cause and was done with honor, sacrifice and in the name of duty. Not in the name of goverment, I feel we as the people of the US have contributed to putting our country where she is to day and if we don't wake up and pull together. We will be her down fall we have let her down she has always stood strong for us. We the people put these slimmy bastards in office, we have allowed them to take and take til there is not much left to take. I will be the first to say our country has went down hill and we the people gave her the push. Goverment represents the public and we all have made some bad choices ( I did not vote for O-dumba$$ I still have my good olboy membership card) but if I had took some of my down time and just talked to a few people and they had talked to a few things could have been a little different not much but some. Until we the people tighten the ropes and make the goverment answer to the people they will keep screwing us. Then they will pass laws to keep politics out of our hands and then they will make Hitler look like the pope.

 

It took despotism to spark the American Revolution or the French and others. It is the catalyst which sparked the Boston Tea Party.
The Russian Revolution the end of despotism was just a change of the guard. Mao's version was starvation for 40-50 million people.

The problem with it is after the worst has happened; it seems to go one of two ways. Only the naive are certain they know which of the two.

 

Freedom is the judgement and ability to apply some form of this statement:

An ye harm none; do as thou wilt.

 

Because it was their generation; my father and almost everyone (family, friends, neighbors) was a WWII Vet.
Many of them believed WWII happened because Hitler and Japan were ignored until they finally attacked us. History seems to agree with them.

What would the world be if the Allies had kept their military up to date and took out Hitler after his first invasion?

What would the world be if we had stayed out of Korea?

Although I do not trust politicians. I believe this is not a two headed coin that when flipped always answers all conflicts have been folly.

Wiccan Rede

As not many despots, dictators, royalty etc leave when asked politely; you'd need to be born free to sign up for harming none.

 

They get together down the road aways twice a year at solstice . I never had a problem with them .

 

The Constitution guarantees religious freedom for all.

 

Unless it has changed, Wiccan KIA aren't treated equally under the rules in the military. I used to live near Ft Bragg, NC and in the 1990s there was a heated exchange in the Fayetteville newspaper.
The widow of a soldier being buried in a military cemetery wanted his grave marker to display a Wiccan symbol. The military is only authorized crosses and Star of David; so the answer was no.

As I received a "like" I added this as a separate post.

 

I believe that was finally sorted out by a lawsuit in 2007, and now the VA does allow Wiccan Pentacles on grave markers. The VA lagged behind the military by several years, which had approved Wicca as an alternative religion some time ago.

I've got no problem with anyone who actually follows Wiccan belief, and adheres to the Wiccan Rede: "An it harm none, do what ye will." I think this would be an easier world to get by in if everyone followed such a mindset. The old, "Do unto others ....", works too, if folks actually adhere to it.

Wiccans also believe that whatever they do, good or bad, will come back to them three times, in THIS world; not in the afterlife. That generally makes the true believers pretty nice folks. A mean Wiccan knows he has some ugly payback coming.

For those Monkeys who are Masons, crack open a book on Wiccan initiation rites sometime, and take a look at the oaths. My eyebrows certainly went up when I did. You'll be able to quote much of it from memory.

 

Thank you for the update. I thought it was a raw deal and it was hot and heavy in the Fayetteville newspaper.

As I worked with a Wiccan; I know some of their beliefs. I know a lot more about his great vegetable garden and being right fair with a fishing pole.

I served with a variety of religions; it never was that important. Where it gets attention is when someone pushes their ways on me, Other than that, it is their free choice.