What ever happened to the Militias?

Some of us are alive & well. Check out the links in my sig.

 

Many/most of the gun shows actually forbid this now. That doesn't stop anyone. You will see some vendors selling tactical gear or whatever and will either be wearing a shirt or even selling shirts with the word "militia" or "cidg" on it. Ask some questions and you'll likely get some paperwork being kept under the table, or at least exchange email addresses with someone.

 

After reading the rest of this thread, I have a few other thoughts on the subject. I need to be brief right now as I am just taking a break at work.

The militia leaders of the past made myriad mistakes that got us in the mess we are in today. Some continue to make the same mistakes, as well as some new ones.

First and foremost, hierarchical leadership, movement figureheads, etc. make it easy to tear organizations apart. Throw a guy like Charlie Puckett in jail, and now the rattlesnake has no head. The body withers and dies.

Once someone rises to that level of prominence, they often fall into the trap of working outside the law. They think they can get away with machining full auto sears for AR15's, or making explosive devices. Some of the laws we're talking about here are pretty stupid (like the full auto restrictions) but it is the law until SCOTUS can reconcile the conflicts these laws have with the 2nd Amendment. Hey with a guy like Alito on the bench today, anything is possible. But a case has to make it to SCOTUS first. The BATFE doesn't want to see this happen and will pull the plug on the case or aggressively bargain with the defendant, whatever it takes to keep SCOTUS from hearing it.

Setting up large hierarchical militia organizations not only makes for easy targets for the pheds, but it puts very few people in charge of (potentially) very many. Civilians abhor other folks arbitrarily telling them what to do. The leaderless cell model seems to work the best. I've been pretty much "out there" about my own activities. So far they still let me fly, and still let me buy guns without a delay. No problems getting a CCW permit.

The true militiaman should be allergic to power. If your group is growing too big, break it up. The movement needs to grow larger but the influence of any one person needs to grow smaller.

Are we cowards? Throughout the history of the militia, the officers of the regular army have lobbed this criticism at us (including George Washington, who was no fan of the militia and our likelihood to scoot as soon as things got tough). But our discretion serves us well. Those who turn and run away live to fight another day. I think even Sun Tzu would appreciate the preference a militiaman has for picking and chosing his battles, only chosing to fight when victory seems assured.

We need to stop being so hung up on guns. Guns are important. Guns are what allow We The People to shoot at invaders, tyrants, despots, traitors, etc. But what will keep us alive when and if we are activated is Everything Else. Fieldcraft, comms, survival skills, etc. Instead of eating up 5,000+ rounds of ammo a year sitting at a benchrest at the local firing range, we really ought to be out in the woods trying out our LBE, our tents, our tools. How light can you pack and still move through the woods undetected for three days? Can you set up a stealthy observation post overlooking an enemy stronghold and man it for a month without being detected? Can you pick out a high value target from 800 meters and have the patience to potentially wait weeks to get a sure shot on him?

Running around with a SAW and 400+ rounds of ammo is for the professional army. That's not us. That's one of the big mistakes most militia types make. They want to be GI Joe or Rambo. That's not what we're about. You want to know what we're about? Read about the exploits of Francis Marion. Then go watch The Patriot which was in part based on the life of Francis Marion in the American Revolution. Yes he had a couple of glorious blood & guts major melees in that film but the real beauty of his work was intercepting supply lines in the wilderness, taking out high value targets, and forcing the British to squander front line resources to defend their supply lines in the rear.

All of you should be paying attention to what is going on in Iraq, Lebanon, Cechyna, and so on. Don't be so dead set on emulating a professional army. A professional army has infinitely more resources at their disposal than you do. They have cooks, laundry service, intelligence organizations, armories, motor pools, so much more than any of us can hope for. We would be foolish to emulate them.

 

Thanks for the reply Yonder.

 

As much as bob believed he was in charge and going to warn the war against the government. He may seem like an inspiration to some. But he would have been stronger and a bigger inspiration if he wouldn have kept his promises. It’s been 19 years since I’ve been able to see my dad and as much as he lived his guns and his fight it’s a rude awakened that is his kids weren’t important enough to put his pride down and do it properly and
Legally. Or if he would have
Swallowed his pride and just humbly taken his sentence Originally he would have been home over ten years ago. He would have been a real man if he would have kept at least one promise.

 

III percenter clubs are swelling and I have ran across a couple of groups that seem to be Texas wide that are positioning themselves to "assist in periods of need". I didn't get a bad vibe but they didn't seem like the Cajun Navy either.

 

Strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times, hard times create weak men. I dont know your situation but I will say this a man willing to stand and fight and die or go to prison for standing on his moral fortitude is a real man!

 

Who is the militia?, you ask. We are all the militia.. Every able-bodied adult in the Nation is a member of the militia, and as such can be called upon in time of need to defend the Nation. You will be expected to present yourself with weapon, ammunition, rations, and such equipment as necessary for service to State and/or Nation. We are the Unorganized Militia.
As far as the militia movement goes it is dead. It died when the leaders started giving interviews, when they had membership rolls, websites, e-mails, organizational flow-charts. etc. A militia will only work in small cells, 1-3 guys, and it won't work if you try and tangle with regular army. You have to follow the example of the Swamp Fox, The Gray Ghost of the Confederacy, The Wizard of the Saddle and hit them where they aren't. Destroy their supply lines and infrastructure.

 

I once was associated with a group of people years ago that spent time and money trying to do civic justice on a different level than what you would see on the news media. We actually tried to help. We had international resources and a community of well-established supporters. Our leader was a ghost, I never even knew for certain if he/she existed and it didn't really matter if it was a person or an ideal, what mattered was the cause was just and right. Some were simply disappeared, others were discredited and the group fell into paranoid silence. I still support the agenda and will until I die but the only reminder of our cause is the challenge coin in my pocket and a certain knowledge that all are monitored, watched, taxed, and controlled. Prey in darkness.

 

there's good power in place now compared to the Obammy days - it'll be a matter of getting Ginsberg replaced and SCOTUS will take on the 2A issues ....
important thing is to keep the whole issue on the down low and keep the DNC & Leftist from having ammo for the 2020 elections ...
if the GOP can take back the House you'll see action that the House RINOs wouldn't allow and the current House wouldn't even talk about ...

 

...what you saw from 2016 to 2018.
the last three years have destroyed what hope I had for Republicans. They're truly as bad as democrats now. They're handed a winning hand and they drop their pants and s#!t on it. They WANT to lose. As I've said - We have not proven that we CANNOT govern ourselves, we have only demonstrated that we WILL not. The impossible opportunity has come and gone. There will not be another.

 

I still have hope,don’t give up.

 

Ginsberg is likely already dead, but it won't be announced until the next Democrat is elected President even if it takes until January 2005.

 

They are both globalist, just different time tables..

 

Speaking of pizza, here's some food for thought.

alt-market.com/articles/2797-what-is-the-best-method-of-rebellion-against-tyranny

 

that's because you look at the GOP as one big happy party - Trump was able to crap on the Bush Family early one - Romney got his - on & on >> the GOP took a right turn away from the traditional old power brokers due to the US voters - but they are still there - resisting to the very end like McCain ...
if the House comes back Right - you can expect some differences than the previous 2016/18 version - definitely will be more Trump alignment than before ...

 

I want to believe that. I won't talk it down. But like Nov 2016, I'm pessimistic, I will go to sleep convinced it's over. And look what that brought - your point is proven.