Is that so many people don't live like I do. It is cool that ya'll live in cities and I don't. I do have a hand pump well, I grow my food, at least some of it, I kill my meat and proccess it myself. I really wish you all could do what I do, but that is not reallistic. If I knew y'all better I would love to you come visit and learn how I survive and just be closer to the land. I have and will continue to learn from y'all. Why I am writing this I know not but everyone has value in this forum. I guess I am saying thank you. I have learned alot here and on other web sites, this is the first one that I refer people to. Just a thank-you thing I guess.