What If... Lost in Alaska

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  1. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    1. What if... You and your best friend decide to do a one week guided hunt in remote Alaska. You are both in good physical condition and have been hunting together for 5 years. You have contracted with a guide and will be flown to your hunting location by bush plane where you will be left until your guide radios for pick-up. After takeoff, your guide instructs the pilot to drop you at an alternate spot. On landing at your drop location, a lake landing, your plane hooks a deadhead on the Port pontoon at 60 Knots, spinning the plane and causing the Port side wing to dig into the water. The pilot is killed in the crash, your guide drowns unable to exit the sinking plane, and most of your gear sinks with the plane in 160 feet of water. You and your buddy manage to get to shore, but are completely soaked. Temperatures are in the mid 40's but you know they will drop with the sunset. You both have 10” sheath knives, .44 Magnum revolvers in shoulder rigs but only the rounds in the pistols. Your buddy managed to drag one dry bag to shore with him and it contained one change of clothing and dry boots, one -40 degree sleeping bag, and one Zunden 1/2” fire starter. What steps do you and your buddy take to survive with the knowledge that your bush pilot may not have filed a flight plan, your guide is dead, you are wet and knowing that there are predator in the immediate area? What is your first priority, second, third, what's the plan, etc.?

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  2. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    Fire , shelter , water,,,food
  3. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Shoot your buddy in the calf to begin with.
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  4. TnAndy

    TnAndy Senior Member Founding Member

    Build a big fire to dry off with. Start hiking out next day. Build a big fire every evening. Take down a moose/etc at the first opportunity/dry meat, haul as much in the bag as possible, keep moving out.
  5. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    Bear bait?????
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  6. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    First step would be to survey my surroundings. Find a decent spot. One persona can gather wood and the other needs to be preparing a fire pit. Fire is the most important. Drying the clothes and gathering things for building a shelter near the fire is a must.
  7. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Yes indeed! That is an old Alaskan joke!
    You don't have to be the fastest,Just faster than your buddy with a hole in his leg!
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  8. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    Fire... Definitely! Have to get dry and have a source of heat for the coming night.

    Shelter.. Initially, maybe a lean-to but what about there only being one sleeping bag?

    Water.. Might be an issue if you can't find something to boil water in. Might search out a spring or spring fed stream.

    Food ... Have to maintain your strength, fishing, hunting, but few rounds of ammo. Need to build weapons, maybe but, which ones?
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  9. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    This is a situation very much like the book Hatchet but there are two people.

    The sleeping bag can be unzipped and shared plus combining the body heat will help.
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  10. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    First you strip and ring out the excess water,Redress
    Find dry wood,Chances are fuel will be floating on the water,
    Find a rock that will throw sparks when hit with the blunt edge of the knife.
    Start a fire and finish drying out.
    Find something to eat,Even a 44 will stun a salmon long enough for you to grab it.
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  11. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    You have a 1/2' Zunden fire rod from the dry bag..:rolleyes:
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  12. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Thats to easy,I'd set the lake on fire.
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  13. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

    Why would you be flying in a bush plane with only your knife and revolver on your person? No mini kit in a fanny pack?
  14. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    First understand, that there WILL BE A SEARCH... initiated by Alaska SAR Troopers & The Civil Air Patrol, plus every Bush Pilot in the area...when the Bush Pilot doesn’t return on scheduale.... Second, because there is NO EPIRB/ELT Signal, the searchers will know that the aircraft is in the water, and submerged... Third, they will NOT suspend the search for at least three days, and will look at multiple alternate sites... So, Build two fires, but only light one, for warmth... Keep the second one as a Signal Fire once you hear the search Aircraft, are heard overhead... Stay where you are, do NOT leave th e site for at least a week, especially since you are unfamiliar with the area, and have just basic hnting experience, and NO ALASKA BUSH experience...The SAR Folks will be looking for Heat Signitures using FLIR with night flights over the effected areas... If near the Coast it will be the USCG DOING THE SEARCH, If it is inland. then it will be US ARMY Choppers doing the search.... Gather whatever is available for insulation and bedding... (Evergreen Needles, Branches Brush, Grass, etc) Do not waste ANY Ammunition trying for food, untill at least a week has gone by...You may need every round you have down the road, and food is NOT an issue for the first week...
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  15. AxesAreBetter

    AxesAreBetter Monkey+++

    How deep is the water?
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  16. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    The plane and gear is 160 feet under water.... Some parts, might float to the surface later, though. Maybe some gear bags, too.
  17. AxesAreBetter

    AxesAreBetter Monkey+++

    That definitely ain't around here water. Haha.
    1. Upon reaching the surface, I start trying to convince my hunting buddy we can't stay forever.
    2. Get to shore, wring out, and start looking for fire materials/opportunity shots.
    3. Wonder where all my "I'm going up in a plane kit" landed (Hahahaha)
    4. Shelter/food/water/bonfire, I reckon. Which is to say, I guess, go scouting.
  18. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    I could have just said 60 feet. At that depth it would be equally unreachable... It's just a number...:)
  19. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I like peeling bananas and (occasionally) people.

    I'd go with BTPost's strategy, except I'd also lay out a ground signal if the terrain permitted it.

    For my signal fire, I'd try to find a lone evergreen tree about 12' tall, stack a 6' teepee of deadfall wood around the trunk, stuff in a cubic yard of tinder, and have it ready to fire up in a heartbeat. You'd get lottsa smoke from the green branches, without having to chop & haul them.

    This scenario is one example why a person should always have a mini survival kit on their person. Not necessarily the one I developed, but a kit of some kind. Even a survival necklace, if nothing else.

    A little snare wire, for example, can come in mighty handy. If not for trapping game, then maybe for lashing together 2 pairs of emergency snow shoes or suchlike.

    One of the reasons you should stay put for a while is so you don't walk out of an area that hasn't been searched and into one that has.

    In a really desperate situation, I'd split 52 thin slats of wood, shave them into shape with my knife, and then mark them with blood and charcoal. As soon as my deck of cards was finished, I'd start a game of Solitaire. Within ten minutes someone would come along and tell me to play the red ten on the black jack.
  20. AxesAreBetter

    AxesAreBetter Monkey+++

    I mean, around here, you would have to swim around the plane instead of over it in most places, it's so comparatively shallow.
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