What is your favourite way to suspend your billycan.

Discussion in 'Bushcraft' started by sticks65, Apr 8, 2010.

  1. sticks65

    sticks65 Monkey++

    OK the full title of this thread wouldn't fit in the box so here it is again.

    What is your favourite method of hanging your billycan over the fire.

    I use a crane type set up as mostly i camp out on my own and usually only cook with one pot.



    Please describe your favourite method and add photos if possible.
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  2. hog

    hog Drinking Mampoer.

  3. sticks65

    sticks65 Monkey++

    I see Ray has been watching my videos again.[lolol]
  4. hog

    hog Drinking Mampoer.

    He was the best student I ever had.[respect]
  5. sticks65

    sticks65 Monkey++

    Wow nobody on the forum uses billycans or suspends them over the fire when they go camping?

    Does anyone even go camping?
    scratchchin. poke[1]. shrug.
  6. Hispeedal2

    Hispeedal2 Nay Sayer

    I use crane or place them directly on the coals (depending on what I am trying to achieve).
  7. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    I use a Kelly Kettle for most of my purposes.
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  8. pcc

    pcc Monkey+

    guess I'm too used to creature comforts. I use one similar to this, mine doesn't have the charcoal tray

  9. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    Kelly Kettle is a handy thing. I usually use some variation of your crane or a spit between two forks; just depends on what is handiest and the duration of my stay, purpose of the fire, etc. I rarely do an open fire just to boil a hot drink, preferring a small alcoholic stove or Kelly. If we are doing a big camp, there is usually a large coffee pot going on the fire but it is more a social thing than anything and is usually on the grate that someone lugged along.
  10. sticks65

    sticks65 Monkey++

    Thats a novel idea that i haven't seen before.

    Thanks for posting it,i may have to make a copy.
  11. sticks65

    sticks65 Monkey++

    Id love to see your variation as its interesting but i get what you saying about using an alcohol stove for a brew.

    Ive not used a kelly kettle but have heard good things.
  12. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    I just use a small stove and a GI canteen cup for my hot water/food needs. Never cooked over an open fire.

    Interesting technique though.
  13. Hispeedal2

    Hispeedal2 Nay Sayer

    This is just my personal preference.... I am anti-stove. There is way too much free fuel laying on the ground for me to carry it anywhere. A small cooking fire is a bit more work, but much more pleasing to the soul.
  14. Hispeedal2

    Hispeedal2 Nay Sayer

  15. Tracy

    Tracy Insatiably Curious Moderator Founding Member

    I prefer direct-fire over stove-cooking any day!
  16. tired-medic

    tired-medic Monkey+++

    Though I have no Billycan or Kelly, I usually use a grate or set cast iron on coals. We used to canp when the children were young and often made coffee by placing the pot on rocks beside the fire pit, not the best but it worked.
  17. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Well, I see we have a terminology barrier. Based on your pictures: What you call a billycan, we call a coffee/teapot or kettle and the other just a plain ole' pot.

    Are you sure that isn't a hobo stove and fire? :D
  18. sticks65

    sticks65 Monkey++

    This is a billycan,it has been used by railroad works in the UK for well over a hundred years or more and funny enough they also called it a billycan.

    This is a kettle,used for boiling water.

    Now the OP was about how you suspend your pot,kettle,billycan or what ever else you would like to call it,so lets stay on topic ah.[beat]
  19. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Many times used a cake cooling grate to hold up pots. Find some appropriate size rocks and do it to it. (No pix on record, but ---) They don't last long and have to be regarded as expendable. However, anything that makes SWMBO happy ---. (Those days are long gone, haven't camped since well before we parted ways.)
  20. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Well f*ck me, I guess I replied to the wrong thread with the wrong answer. Sorry for such an off-topic reply.


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