What will you do?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Seacowboys, Oct 23, 2006.


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What would you do?

Poll closed Jan 31, 2007.
  1. Defy and not comply

    3 vote(s)
    42.9%
  2. Turn in your guns

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Turn in only your "government known" weapons

    3 vote(s)
    42.9%
  4. Shoot the JBT's when they come to take them

    1 vote(s)
    14.3%
  1. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    It is odvious that eventually the miss-guided government will inact stricter gun controls. Minimally, they will force issues on semi-automatic weapons and firearms, possibly prohibiting their use and ownership except to a few. My question is simpily "Will you comply?"
    I don't want to spark one of those "From my cold dead fingers" debates because the government has already demonstrated that they have no hesitation in doing just that very thing on a large scale and won't think twice about it. I just want to know how far we really will allow them to go?
     
  2. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    I fight it everyday now in conversations, voteing, and letters and phone calls to the government.
    Nothing would change I would keep on fighting it.
     
  3. Anonymous

    Anonymous Monkey+++

    perhaps an "anonymous" poll is a better way to gauge this question?
     
  4. TailorMadeHell

    TailorMadeHell Lurking Shadow Creature

    This question provokes many schools of thought. You have to ask yourself, what would you do or how far would you go. In that as joe citizen you have to think on. Then as in my case as a Soldier, I have to consider this and more thoughts to the matter. As a private citizen, this ruffles every feather that I have. I do not think that the government should have the right to ban any weapon that is used in personal defense, sporting events or hunting. I see it is happening every day though. I as a citizen would have to buck against the system and deny anyone the right to confiscate my weapons.

    This action would be unconstitutional, though as every day passes it is becoming constitutional as they are changing the constitution to fit their jack boots. On the other hand, as a member of the military I could foresee that somewhere along the line I may be called upon to do such confiscation duties. This displeases me to no ends.

    I signed on to fight the enemies of the US foreign or domestic, protect the peoples of the US and to uphold the letter of the constitution. I am obligated by oath to follow the orders of my commanding officers, the governor of the state of CA and the president of the US. Though it is in my way of thinking that I will only follow legal orders. I cannot and will not follow any illegal orders.

    If that rebelling against illegal orders gains me a court marshal, time in the brig or a death sentence then so be it. I will follow all lawful orders. With that said, will I obey an order to jackboot someone's guns? If the constitution of the US keeps changing to allow for the confiscation of guns then it puts me in a very hard position indeed. If it is not written in the constitution then it is therefore unlawful to confiscate weapons. What is happening is that the laws that I am obligated to follow are changing for the worse.

    I see domestic enemies abroad every day. Hillbillies with guns? Muhammed with bombs? Fanatics with molotov cocktails? No. I can't think of any time I walked down the street and saw any of those. I have had the displeasure of passing a great many liberal idiot politicians though. Those I see as enemies of the US and one day a reckoning will have to take place. Their actions and 'laws' are more threatening to the US than you bearing arms to defend yourself, others or your country. Therefore by being in the position that they are in and destroying America as they are, they are making themselves enemies that I will one day have to confront.

    Will I confiscate guns? No I will not. If it is an order? If you are in the commission of a crime, then yes. If you are a violent criminal who has a gun then sure you will lose your weapon. If you are a peace loving, prepared to fight American, then you can keep your weapons and I will stand against any order to confiscate them.

    Get to your polls. Mail letters. Make phone calls. Do what you must every day to assure that this travesty doesn't go any further. Remember the chain of command. I follow the orders of the Constitution, then the President, then the governor of CA, then any officer over me. The President and the governor of CA follow the orders of the Constitution and the US/CA people. Therefore I follow the orders of the Constitution and the American people. I work for you in the brief of it. So would you have me confiscate your guns?

    If not, then demand that things change. If not then it becomes a part of whether you did enough to change this derailment. If you sat idly by while they took away your freedoms then you basically tell me that it is okay to come into your house and confiscate your weapons. I know it is a lot to change though change it must.

    I will do my part to insure that every legal citizen has the right to bear arms and protect themselves from dangers, though help me in helping you. Tell your politicians that we will not freely give up our arms and will not accept any politician that says othewise. They work for you and do not be afraid to let them know that every day.

    We have the right to bear arms, we have the right to defend ourselves and we have the right to ban any politician that is not working for us. Practice those rights in the ways you can and one day maybe this thought of banning weapons will not enter into the minds of anyone.

    It is a long road back to the right path though we must trudge onwards and bring liberty back to America. Do away with the corrupt. Remember how the Roman people sometimes did with crooked officials. It wasn't only christians that fed the lions.

    Food for thought.
     
  5. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    Any law that infringes on the right to keep and bear arms is unconstitutional and that included assault weapons bans, 1934 gun control act, 1968 gun control act, and the 89 import and manufacturing ban. All of these laws are clearly an infringement on the rights of citizens to arm themselves on parr with any governing force. That is my position and you can inturpet it any way you want.
     
  6. Blackjack

    Blackjack Monkey+++

    I'd give'em the ones they know about (If they came to my door after them). No sense fighting a battle I can't win over just a couple of pistols. I would never leave myself defenseless though.
     
  7. monkeyman

    monkeyman Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    The politicians dont have the authority to change the constitution. It is their employment contract not the rules for the people to follow, so even if they abolish the second amendment their change is meaningless. The right to keep and bare arms is and was recognized by the founders as a right granted by our creator.

    I have to say that it might depend somewhat on the situation at the time what I would do but if I did comply it would only be in order to rearm myself and join with others who would take back freedom from an ilegitemat group poseing as our gov since any group takeing away the freedom of the people is not operating under their employment contract known as the Constitution and would there fore be treasonous persons.
     
  8. ghostrider

    ghostrider Resident Poltergeist Founding Member

    I only own one gun, a old .22, and half a box of shells, and if my government wants it I will give it to them.
     
  9. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Um, ah --. That is similar to my situation. If the dot gov comes knockin' I'll hand over the 22 Winchester rifle my grandmother gave me. (22 long gallery gun that was screwed up by an alleged gunsmith.) Other than that, they will need ground penetrating radar and a 24/7 stake out.
     
  10. kckndrgn

    kckndrgn Moderator Moderator Founding Member

    In all reality, I'm not sure what I would do. Most of my guns the .gov prolly knows about, because I have bought them new from a dealer. I would like to think that I would say, "gee, I just sold them, for cash, and I did not keep anykind of receipt, sorry".

    I would like to think that I could "hide" my firearms somewhere, but I also know that if the .gov really wanted to, they could tear my house apart looking for them.

    Depending on what guns I have at the time of "confiscation" I do have a old .22lr that I would be happy to give them and, oh I sold the rest ;)

    Until the time comes to "turn them in" I will continue to do my part. Vote, write letters to the .gov and take an active role in keeping firarms in my hands.

    Ryan
     
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