What's next?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Tango3, Dec 31, 2009.

  1. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    health care"reform, ( we're "screwed")
    why imigration "reform" ofcourse;(You aint seen nuttin' yet):

    Obama positioning for immigration reform

    With the health-care battle still unfinished, the Obama administration has been laying plans to take up an issue that could prove even more divisive — a major overhaul of the nation's immigration system.
    By Peter Nicholas and Tom Hamburger
    Los Angeles Times

    WASHINGTON — With the health-care battle still unfinished, the Obama administration has been laying plans to take up an issue that could prove even more divisive — a major overhaul of the nation's immigration system.
    Senior White House aides privately have assured Latino activists that the president will back legislation next year to provide a path to citizenship for the estimated 12 million undocumented workers now living in the United States.
    In addition to the citizenship provision, the emerging plan will stress efforts to secure U.S. borders against those trying to cross illegally. But that two-track approach was rejected repeatedly in the past by Republicans and other critics who insist a border crackdown must demonstrate its effectiveness before any action on citizenship is considered.
    Whatever proposal Obama puts forward will likely be complicated by the calendar: Midterm elections are in November, and polls show the public is more worried about joblessness and the fragile economy than anything else.
    The White House already has a packed agenda for 2010: economic recovery, global-warming legislation and tougher regulation of financial institutions.
    In an effort to enlist the kind of business support that helped drive its health-care initiative, for example, administration officials have reached out to the National Restaurant Association, which represents an industry that employs thousands of immigrants. Earlier this year, the new head of the association, Dawn Sweeney, met with Cecilia Munoz, a White House aide involved in the issue, and expressed interest in cooperating.
    "It's an extremely important issue for our members," said Sweeney, whose group could exert grass-roots pressure on lawmakers.
    As a candidate, Obama vowed to take up immigration during his first year in office. That deadline will come and go. Further delay could anger Latino voters, who came out in force for the president and congressional Democrats in 2008.
    "The bulk of the people needing immigration reform are Latino," said Rep. Raul M. Grijalva, D-Ariz. "There's a level of disenchantment about where we're going. ... And if you don't give the Latino community a reason to participate (in the elections) you weaken your base even more."
    For an immigration bill to have a realistic shot of passing next year, political analysts said, the particulars would have to be agreed upon by the spring. Delay would increase the likelihood of the issue being derailed by the November elections.
    An immigration bill was introduced in the House earlier in the month, and Sen. Charles E. Schumer, D-N.Y., who chairs a subcommittee on immigration, is heading the effort to cobble together a bipartisan coalition in the Senate.
    But Democrats may not have a lock on one prominent Republican who has worked in the past to revamp the immigration system: Arizona Sen. John McCain.
    McCain backed George W. Bush's failed attempt to overhaul immigration in his second term. But he has not committed to supporting the Obama bill, saying he worried the president would not endorse a temporary guest-worker program.
    Organized labor, an important part of the Democratic base, has voiced opposition to a guest-worker program under which more immigrants could enter the country on a temporary basis. The White House would not reveal its position on guest-worker issue.

    Edited for waste removal. - ghrit
  2. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    Oh God...... the crap never stops........ [shtf]

    I reckon bobo the clown will open a free bus service to bring them all over.......
  3. dragonfly

    dragonfly Monkey+++

    I've recently witnessed the immigration problem and what "reform" might mean...
    2 days of alcoholic revelry and insanity in the form of drunks, drunks driving, drunks singing, drunks screaming, drunks dancing, drunks being chased by Phoenix Police...6 cars in all, and lest we not forget to mention the 2 large bonfires, started between mobile homes!
    New Years:
    It went down hill from Christmas....The drunks were back as is par for the course, starting early in the afternoon of the 24th.... they had the ususal bonfires (3 this time!), police responded between being either bored or busy..(not sure on that one!), the drunks found out that guns make wonderful noise makers, in order to celebrate with...Neighbors called police until 4:00 am, and strangely enough, 1 actually responed to that call ( seems the calls started at about 2:30 and continued from the KOA campground, until they finally gave in and came out.
    The entire park area, some 11 1/2 acres, is covered by Bud light bottles and cans....but, local sales were brisk, as they bought 30 pack cases, 8-10 at a time!
    Trash everywhere, and NOT to mention it, but it appears someone has flushed something of considerable size....The backhoes are out digging up the sewer lines, and we got a notice from the management company WE will all have to pay an additional amount this month for damages incurred by those that are idiots.
    Yeah, I can hardly wait to open the "gates of Hell" and turn the dogs loose on this entire country!
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