What's your dream house?

Discussion in 'Back to Basics' started by Tully Mars, May 28, 2015.

  1. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Also quite common on the plantations in the south.
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  2. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    The breezeway house I went into had the kitchen/living room/washer/dryer on the right side.
    Left side was for sleeping/bathing..
    The farther east you go in the south its called a 'Cracker House' ???
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  3. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    Perimeter vegetation blends into the surrounding area. Layer behind that is nasty thorns (something like a bush variety of locus) with barrier posts. Entrance looks like a run down mobile home that leads to subterranean level. In reality it is reinforced concrete with a nice heavy steel door. Subterranean level stores fuel, food, water and other supplies as well as power plant. PP exhaust is thermally shielded and emission controlled. Geothermal heating from hot spring that maintains green house. Main level overlooks but not visible, blending into environment. Emergency exits have sight lines on entrance,one of which looks like a broken down pickup truck, and another an outhouse.
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  4. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey Site Supporter+++

    Now theres a real mountain hobbit house.. One that we could be quietly proud of..
    Knew someone that lived in a mobile home out in the country that had a pole barn style roof over it. looked pretty rough , however once inside it was great.. Even my wife would had loved it.. The county property tax people do not get out of their car when they visit..
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  5. AxesAreBetter

    AxesAreBetter Monkey+++

    Been thinking on a dog run myself. Go with the climate. I'm sure as heck all tired of fighting it.

    I think I would minimally want a palisade around my dream home. Couple of canons, room for the food stores and the critters inside the walls. Preferably with earth pack and concrete fill with a rampart to stand on, but lets be realistic here. Haha. And a full blown no smaller than 6ft smoke house I can lay low some meat in. I'm tired of half assing smoked meat. You put in twenty times the effort for a pittance of meat.

    I reckon that a fireplace or woodstove would round me out pretty well. Not really sure what all else i would want.
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  6. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    I am thinking Earthship...

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  7. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    While thinking earthship, consider earth sourced heat pumps for both heating and cooling. A couple wells would do the job readily. If the house is on the side of a hill that is steep enough, the heat exchange wells could be horizontal out the dirt side walls, might be a lot easier for maintenance.
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  8. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Ground Source Heat Pumps are very efficient... But if you are going to drill a vertical Well anyway, and you have a High Water Table, why not Do Both, with One well? This gets you a source of water, which is Prized, and also allows you to suck BTUs out of Well Water, and discard it for the Garden in the summer, and use it for domestic Water in the winter.... Transferring BTUs between Refrigerant and Water, is a whole HEAP more efficient than Refrigerant and even the Ground, let alone Air.... Also if you are planning a Basement, in New Construction, think about putting in the Basement, and THEN Drilling the Well in the corner of the Basement. This keeps the whole water system inside the Insulated Portion of the Building, so no Freezing worries for Pipes, Tanks, Filters or whatever, and makes for Water Security from outside influences.... Just a thought, that comes to mind..... YMMV...
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  9. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    BTPOST. Would this really work? I thought geo thermal was a closed loop system which is what makes it efficient. Removing water from a closed loop system defeats the purpose.

    I'm not saying it can't be done ... I'm asking how you see it getting done. I can't see it working. Would love to know more what you are thinking

    Broker. I love earth ships as well. I just wonder about the rubber tire emmissions. I don't know if this is a valid concern. If you know any info would be great. I also don't think the garden area in the green house is large enough. These are beautiful and experimental so zoning regulations can be problematic.

    I do love that he figured out how to reuse the water several times
  10. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Ground source systems are closed. Geothermal may be open or closed, and is more than a little bit impractical for residential use, and is really just marginally successful in most places using it in the US. Some of those central station heating plants in northern Europe (and Iceland in particular) have worked for years, but are maintenance intensive as well as needing a fairly close to the surface hot rock zone OR a source of natural hot water.

    For ground source, it's relatively easy to drill a well into the relatively constant temperature zone below frost, insert a coil with a pump in a loop, and pump the water at roughly ground water temperature thru a heat pump. The only operating cost is the pump power (and the heat pump.) Initial costs are much higher due to the well itself and the custom designed coil. Yes, there are some residential ground source systems in use in the US.
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  11. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Here you go:

    I believe they use old tires, recycling them the best way possible. Zoning will always be painful, depending on where you choose to live, can vary from not too much trouble to nearly impossible.
  12. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    I saw the movie and toured several of the houses back when they let you do that. It's why the tires concern me
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  13. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Adding thoughts about ground sourced systems. I think it would not go well to use the same well bore for both domestic water pump and coil placement. I can see interferences when trying to pull one or the other for repair or replacement. Also, depending on depth, head room to pull the pump or coil has to exist, therefore I'd put them outside the footprint of the residential areas. A similar problem would exist for horizontal coils, tho' a pull space would be easier to arrange, I think.
  14. KAS

    KAS Monkey++

    Tull you listen to me and listen to me good:
    40x40 shop 10 foor ceiling
    20ft over hang on the front 15 lean to on one side
    doors on both ends {cause if your like me most of your gear only goes forward and not reverse}
    full a/c wood stove
    shower , toilet , and troff urinal but not in the bathroom just in the shop who wants to walk far to take a leak...and the urinal can double as a sink parts washer ...
    the drive way has to be paved for easy movement of non working items ...
    3 phase 220 power

    the house let the wife handle that , so when she compains she dont like something its her fault !!!!
  15. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    No. 440VAC 3 ph
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  16. KAS

    KAS Monkey++

    ok if you can get it and have a use for it do it
  17. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Most rural areas are limited to 220Vac Single Phase. Problems arise due to distribution and available transformers. Then you have to have a breaker box that is 3 phase. All pretty costly for a retro fit or even a new install.

    I helped a church go that route, parts and time were donated but then only because they were at a main line did they even have the ability to have 3pahse 440Vac service.

    Best to stay with 220Vac single phase. Around here installing a 200 amp/220Vac main is standard, want more, just add money.
  18. VHestin

    VHestin Farm Chick

    My dream house would be a Thomas Kinkade type stone cottage, totally off the grid, greenhouse, root cellar, and a seperate room in the house just for all the cats.
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  19. KAS

    KAS Monkey++

    Yes of course a monkey knows this ...
    But im pretty sure the title says" dream house"
    correct me if im wrong ????
    but thanks for the info !!!!
  20. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    No you're not wrong, none the less dreams should be nailed to reality.
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