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When did a noose become racist?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Blackjack, Sep 11, 2007.

  1. Blackjack

    Blackjack Monkey+++

    I must have missed a political correctness meeting or something, because twice this week I've heard (on the news) hangman's nooses referred to as racist symbols against blacks.

    Did I miss out on the history class where only blacks were hung or what?

    The last story I saw was from a University in Maryland where they found a little 3 inch, frayed loop of rope in a tree, 12 feet up. It looked to me like someone was trying to climb in a window and their rope broke, but they are calling it a "hate crime" and giving counseling to the black students who must now begin the "healing process"...... WTF have these over-sensitive little sissies brought us to?
  2. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Adventure Riding Monkey Founding Member

    Another way they can take a bite out of the Gravy Train . . . :mad:
  3. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Whaddya bet the international chess federation gets squalls about black chessmen.
  4. FalconDance

    FalconDance Neighborhood Witch

    Yes, Blackjack. ONLY blacks were EVER hung in ALL of history. I'm shocked you did not know that!

    : sarcasm check - passed :

    Our society at large absolutely disgusts me these days.
  5. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    Lewis allen

    Southern trees bear strange fruit,
    Blood on the leaves and blood at the root,
    Black bodies swinging in the southern breeze,
    Strange fruit hanging from the poplar trees.

    Pastoral scene of the gallant south,
    The bulging eyes and the twisted mouth,
    Scent of magnolias, sweet and fresh,
    Then the sudden smell of burning flesh.

    Here is fruit for the crows to pluck,
    For the rain to gather, for the wind to suck,
    For the sun to rot, for the trees to drop,
    Here is a strange and bitter crop.
  6. misty

    misty Monkey+++

    People are going to be afraid to hang white sheets on the laundry line to dry. All of this politically correct stuff is just stupid. Peope are so over sensitive these days.
  7. brotherpoop

    brotherpoop Monkey+++

    Here's a good one involving a whip:

    When I worked at the Postal Sevice in the St Paul/Mpls area a supervisor was visiting an outer suburb station and the union steward for that station made handmade whips and sold them. He of course tried to sell the visiting supervisor a whip. The supervisor step out of the stewards work area into the aisle and flicked the whip a couple of times to make it snap crisply in the air.

    A minority letter carrier (his work station was close by) filed and won a 30,000 dollar EEO complaint against the postal service stating he felt harrassed by the supervisor and that the whip was snapped in the air to intimidate and humiliate him.

    The postal service had an outside non-govt contracted review board that frequently gave out huge awards for questionable EEO charges. So the rule of thumb was to settle as quickly as possible since the award would be tripled at the next step.

    There were legitmate cases. I saw some issues that needed to be addressed seriously...but the wacky fringe, out to make a buck cases did not help the serious EEO charges.

    I'm sure others have stories.
  8. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    A noose, in and of itself, is not racist. If you insert a Negro, Indian, Mexican, Chinese, or basically anyone but a white person's neck into it, it is racist. White people are excluded from racism because we are white and if white people were allowed to complain about racism, there would be nobody left to pay reparations to the down-trodden poor souls that were the victims.
  9. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Adventure Riding Monkey Founding Member

    The object in and of itself matters not at all. The "Offended Party" grasps ANY excuse to further their cause of 'Becoming a Victim', and therefore earnig their ticket to ride the gravy train, funded by our tax dollars. Our society is truly absurd.

    The Bard said it best . . .
    "What fools these mortals be!"
  10. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    Every day, there is a new article in the papers somewhere about nooses being found. What's the BFD here? We've got wars going on in every corner of the globe, terrorists hiding behind every Bush (pun intended), the greatest country in the history of man being destroyed and turned from a republic to a monarchy, people living in outer-space, and the bif news is that someone found a knot tied in a piece of rope? Did they consider that it might well be a symbol of our rebellion rather than a racist thing? I can think of a few thousand politicians that need a noose.
  11. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member


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    How to make a noose.

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  12. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    I think we should adopt the Hangman's knot as the symbol of our resistance.
  13. FalconDance

    FalconDance Neighborhood Witch

    Early last week at my homesteading forum, someone posted a story about some joker hanging a "witch" in effigy in preparations for Halloween. It is, apparently, being thought of as a "hate crime" - and the folks at the forum couldn't see why. Luckily, what started out as a very mild other-than-Christian bashing (on the forum) turned into an honest request for info and answers given about paganism and Halloween, good exchange of ideas and such. The moderator closed the thread, citing that the topic was too volatile and we were sniping (which was hilarious since, for once, no one was!!!)

    Now, I don't think the idiot who strung up the witch figure was actually commiting a hate crime against pagans. Rather, I think he/she/them was simply trying to be "cute" and cash in on the media's spotlight on nooses. However, if the govt is going to be ignorant enough to continue holding every little twitch and twiddle as a direct affront to black folks (I ain't hyphenated as a Scots/Native American/American! and most of them didn't come from Africa!) and classify such as hate crimes, then whoever hung the "witch" ought to be held to the same standards.

    Tit for tat, as my granny would say.

    Can the rampant idiocy end now, please? [own2]
  14. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    No. Not as long as the namby-pamby whimperers can get a spot on the stage and strike a chord on emotions. One might hope for a real catastrophe that will restore reality.
  15. RightHand

    RightHand Pioneer in a New World Moderator Founding Member

    Although I have a healthy distrust for the liberal media, from what I have read the noose was intended to send a message. Would the noose have been used had the targets been good old white boys? Maybe yes but probably no. When someone acts to incite a riot and a riot then occurs, the inciter is as responsible as the rioters. Just an opinion from a good old northern girl.
  16. AlterEgo

    AlterEgo Monkey+++

    Over at the forum I admin a user by the nym of 'hangman' uses a noose as a avatar.


    Figger any day now jackson/sharpton will be asking me to remove it.

    Now ole hamgman only condones hanhen those who deserve it mostly the CON critters.

  17. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

  18. AlterEgo

    AlterEgo Monkey+++

    Mind if I steal it for him SC?

  19. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    Help yourself, I've been leaving a bunch of them laying around.
  20. andy

    andy Monkey+++

    food for thought... over time and through out history more whites have ever been held in slavery [SIZE=+0]either by other whites or by Muslims or by tada! AFRICANS! thats right north africans held more white Europeans and Americans then ever held by the south. heck we fought a war over it "from the halls of montezuma to the shores of Tripoli" we the US paid tribute so are sailors would go unmolested. well one day we said "enough!" (i don't think we had the money) and fought back... also churches up and down the New England coast would raise money to pay the ransom of captured sailors[/SIZE] wheres my money i want an offical appoligy from someone does this mean i could get more college aid? does this mean i need counsoling after seeing the scull and cross bones, sorry seacowboy (sorry for the font change thing too i don't know what i did)

    ok. ok i'm just sick and tired of the boo hooing GET OVER IT!!!
    i know not very PC

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