Discussion in 'Bill of Rights' started by Yard Dart, Nov 15, 2016.
I thought that was my little secret, LOL. Guess I've posted about it too many times.
i carry every day. when i am at work, my gun is with me at work in a safe location.
Nope, he's on Pay Per View....
This whole thread brings up the greater question, when did our society change to the point that we feel a need to carry. I grew up in the 1940's in rural Minnesota and while everyone had weapons, we felt no need to carry except for snakes in some wooded areas. I like to think of it as the Northfield model. The James gang did well until they tried to rob a bank in Northfield. No one was carrying a pistol, although it was perfectly legal to do so, and they rode in armed and thought that that allowed them to control things and rob the bank. They shot their pistols and started to ride out of town in what they thought was safety. The local population, a good percentage of the males ex civil war vets, reached behind their counters, into their closets, etc, pulled out shotguns and deer rifles and very calmly and accurately shot them full of holes. They then formed a well armed posse that tracked the remainder of the gang and arrested them. They then put away the weapons, went back to their normal life and resumed a state of being armed and aware while carrying on their normal life. As I remember the 1940's, we felt no real fear of our safety in our everyday life, even as we said a prayer at mealtimes to keep mom's 3 brothers in the military safe, and were at war all over the world. What has happened in our mation that requires us to feel a need to carry and to give up most of our freedoms, Patriot act, war on crime, war on drugs, etc, in some misguided need to feel secure and what is the real threat? I admit to wearing a tin foil hat most of the time, but my humble observations of the world around me make it seem to be a prudent act and I never thought that I would spend more time and thought on OPSEC in rural New Hampshire today than I did with a secret security clearance working on the latest state of the art aircraft on an research base in the 1950's during the height of the cold war.
Having a pistol pointed at my face by a robber changed my mind on daily carry.
Sheriff walks into a party. Prudish rich woman says
"I see you have a pistol, Sheriff. Expecting trouble?"
The Sheriff replies
"No ma'am. If I were expecting trouble, I would have brought a shotgun".
anything less than .50 is for wussy.
Lets see.... Let me take it off for a moment... I last carried it today! Feels real strange to not have it in place.
Living in a new area and it feels safe enough, but better to carry and not need than to need and not carry....
i dont feel a NEED to carry. i just have a strong urge to always have my gun with me. my wife also has hers with her at most if not all times.
you could live in statistically the safest place in America... sh!t still can happen. ya never know when someone will threaten you or a loved one
I'm to old and fat to run very fast anymore, Therefore I carry.
That make me, Three....
the 4 rules...learn em and live em
RULE I: ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED
There are no exceptions. Do not pretend that this is true. Some people and organizations take this rule and weaken it; e.g. "Treat all guns as if they were loaded." Unfortunately, the "as if" compromises the directness of the statement by implying that they are unloaded, but we will treat them as though they are loaded. No good! Safety rules must be worded forcefully so that they are never treated lightly or reduced to partial compliance.
All guns are always loaded - period!
This must be your mind-set. If someone hands you a firearm and says, "Don't worry, it's not loaded," you do not dare believe him. You need not be impolite, but check it yourself. Remember, there are no accidents, only negligent acts. Check it. Do not let yourself fall prey to a situation where you might feel compelled to squeal, "I didn't know it was loaded!"
RULE II: NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO DESTROY
Conspicuously and continuously violated, especially with pistols, Rule II applies whether you are involved in range practice, daily carry, or examination. If the weapon is assembled and in someone's hands, it is capable of being discharged. A firearm holstered properly, lying on a table, or placed in a scabbard is of no danger to anyone. Only when handled is there a need for concern. This rule applies to fighting as well as to daily handling. If you are not willing to take a human life, do not cover a person with the muzzle. This rule also applies to your own person. Do not allow the muzzle to cover your extremities, e.g. using both hands to reholster the pistol. This practice is unsound, both procedurally and tactically. You may need a free hand for something important. Proper holster design should provide for one-handed holstering, so avoid holsters which collapse after withdrawing the pistol. (Note: It is dangerous to push the muzzle against the inside edge of the holster nearest the body to "open" it since this results in your pointing the pistol at your midsection.) Dry-practice in the home is a worthwhile habit and it will result in more deeply programmed reflexes. Most of the reflexes involved in the Modern Technique do not require that a shot be fired. Particular procedures for dry-firing in the home will be covered later. Let it suffice for now that you do not dry-fire using a "target" that you wish not to see destroyed. (Recall RULE I as well.)
Rule III: KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET
Rule III is violated most anytime the uneducated person handles a firearm. Whether on TV, in the theaters, or at the range, people seem fascinated with having their finger on the trigger. Never stand or walk around with your finger on the trigger. It is unprofessional, dangerous, and, perhaps most damaging to the psyche, it is klutzy looking. Never fire a shot unless the sights are superimposed on the target and you have made a conscious decision to fire. Firing an unaligned pistol in a fight gains nothing. If you believe that the defensive pistol is only an intimidation tool - not something to be used - carry blanks, or better yet, reevaluate having one around. If you are going to launch a projectile, it had best be directed purposely. Danger abounds if you allow your finger to dawdle inside the trigger guard. As soon as the sights leave the target, the trigger-finger leaves the trigger and straightens alongside the frame. Since the hand normally prefers to work as a unit - as in grasping - separating the function of the trigger-finger from the rest of the hand takes effort. The five-finger grasp is a deeply programmed reflex. Under sufficient stress, and with the finger already placed on the trigger, an unexpected movement, misstep or surprise could result in a negligent discharge. Speed cannot be gained from such a premature placement of the trigger-finger. Bringing the sights to bear on the target, whether from the holster or the Guard Position, takes more time than that required for moving the trigger finger an inch or so to the trigger.
RULE IV: BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET
Know what it is, what is in line with it, and what is behind it. Never shoot at anything you have not positively identified. Be aware of your surroundings, whether on the range or in a fight. Do not assume anything. Know what you are doing.
Make these rules a part of your character. Never compromise them. Improper gun handling results from ignorance and improper role modeling, such as handling your gun like your favorite actor does. Education can cure this. You can make a difference by following these gun handling rules and insisting that those around you do the same. Set the example. Who knows what tragedies you, or someone you influence, may prevent?
My captain taught me ,you don't brandish a weapon ,you pull the weapon and fire, in one move, reload, and put it away when your done.
If you have the time to take careful aim the question might be raised as to whom was the threat .
Real life ain't the movies, nor do you create dialog with a predator .
1. they chose to take aggression .
2. the aggressive are not truthful.
3. remember the parable of the frog and the scorpion .
4. better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
Drawing a weapon for self defense should be a big surprise to an attacker. If they are a threat and at my 21ft distance I will draw and fire as one motion. I have drilled this so I will not have to think about it when it is needed. Dynamic drills are part of my monthly range day with friends....
I was given a chance to train with LEO's and others a while back. You will get a workout!
Halley Strategic has a great low light and vehicle class I recommend highly, if you can get in.... 3 nights & about 1200 rnds plus Glock simunitions.... What an eye opener! Shooting under high stress conditions at night will be something never to be forgotten. Plus shooting through a windshield and around cars accurately while with two other live fire shooters shifting positions is to be experienced... Humbling as a mater of fact...
Made me totally re-evaluate my shooting ability. Real world situations made me realize you never give up any tactical advantage, ever... When you are at the point you acknowledge that the other guy is probably faster, less inhibited and has better endurance, cheat at everything and maybe you will survive.... YMMV
Mention was made about safe places,
Let me remind that a perp is going to look for the most vulnerable situation for his actions .
Though nothing has ever happened in some particular place, yet, does not mean it can't happen.
Unfortunately the state I live in has very strict laws. The County I live in took it to another level. They issued a CCW, but one restriction is I can only carry it to the range. Just about useless. In the South it was my .45 I would carry when going out. On walks around the neighborhood it was my .357 revolver. Can't wait to get home again.
Yep, time to MOVE....
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