I don't know how many other gun forums you guys go to but I go to quite a few and have been amazed at how many little ball less twerps start threads asking for advice on how to "Convince" their spouses to let them buy a gun or another gun . Good God , man up or owning the gun wont do you any good because you ain't got the balls to pull the trigger if you would ever need to !!! The most recent and disgusting one was from this little bitch boy who claimed to have at one time owned several Ar 15's and several other rather expensive rifles all in the $1,000 range each . He is now down to one pistol and a 22 rimfire rifle because over the years has sold and traded off for others but in the last few years after the sale his wife has refused to let him spend the money on the replacement he made the deal for !! The last centerfire rifle he owned was a DPMS AP4 .308 and he sold it with the intent of buying a 223 for Home defense and she wont let him !! And get this , they live in the boonies where no doubt a police response time would take forever ! To make matter worse this imbecile has supposedly stayed married to this hag for 18 years . God no wonder we wind up with such horrible choices in politicians and with the moronic laws they make when so many can't even stand up to their wives on such a simple matter . I'm all for financial responsibility and marital bliss and all that but geeze , I'll be damned if I am ever going to go asking for permission like I was a 8 yo kid needing his mommies approval for everything I do or want to spend money on .
Biggest issue is when you blow aton of money without her knowning it not about not having a pair. Try blowing 6k on a box of she thinks is old oily parts that turn out to be an M2HB. Like the AR situation having 5 1k rifles thats a total of 11k in just 6 Lord knows most guys on the forums have alot more rifles severl Ak's sks etc start adding up. Imagine if the roles were reveresed and she had 11k in coach purses..
I had a friend that called asking for advice about .22s because that was all he could convince his wife to let him buy. I'm a big fan of the .22, but C'mon, you can't protect your family because your wife won't let you buy anything bigger? Really? I just can't understand that sort of thing.
Just buy what you need. Better to ask for forgiveness than permission. It is the man's job to support & protect & lead his family. It is best to do this in a mutually agreed upon way. If your wife doesn't see the need then you need to do what you have to do. If the SHTF, she will be ever grateful of your "defiance" aka leadership and ability to procect the ones you love. Clyde has spoken.
I'd guess that no "significant other" would get too grumpy over a gift. Buy her the weapon of choice, and teach her how to get along with it (or see that she gets competent training, if she won't listen to you.) I agree that it is better for a mutually agreed upon expense, but there are times when a surprise, even one not really wanted, is the way to go. Whether Clyde is right that it is the man's job can be hashed forever, but I know of at least two cases where the lady of the house has taken the lead, and successfully made a convert.
10 years ago I bought my first handgun. It was prior to my prepping stage. My wife was much less conservative than she is now and was afraid to have a loaded gun in the house. Since we had no kids, there was a minimal concern and she insisted that the bullets be left in the basement and the gun stay upstairs. One night she woke-up and the lights were on upstairs in our bedroom and she thought she saw someone. She told me to get my gun to which I quipped, "What do you want me to do with it? Throw it at them?" I went through the house gunless and made my way to the basement, loaded the magazine and brought it upstairs, put it in the gun and chambered a round. We now have 3 loaded guns in the house, multiple rifles, preps, etc, and 3 children. That moment changed her opinion of having a loaded gun in the house. For those of you that have this problem, I suggest you hire one of your friends to do this at night and scare the shit out of you. It is the easiest way to solve your problem.
That's a heck of an Idea Clyde. Although..... those of you, like me, whose wives are already on board, don't try this. She'd cap'em. ........ multiple times.
I think it's a sad state of affairs when men aren't "allowed" to be men. I also believe that it's caused a lot of society's problems (but that's another story). Does that mean that I agree with everything my Mr. does? Heavens no! Does he ask my permission... for anything? Nope! I can't control him... and frankly, I wouldn't want to. How pathetic and boring life would be if I were married to a puppet (convenient, perhaps, but boring). I like your idea, ghrit, but I think that getting a controlling wife a gun as a present would definitely backfire (no pun intended) on the husband. A spiteful gal would pawn/sell it for a new pair of shoes (I know those gals). Boys: Use the testosterone you were born with, get what you want, and either tune out the nagging (I know you guys have that ability ), or supply yourself with enough evidence of her stupid spending (Do you really know how much it costs for her to color her hair? New handbag? Shoes?) to shut her up. A namby-pamby option is to ask your Queen to give you one (or at least the cash to buy your own) for birthday/Father's Day/Holiday of choice. You might even beg for a little additional funding to get some male hormone replacement therapy.
I figue how reasonable it is depends on the particualr situation. If the guy works at Burger King and they struggle to keep the bills paid (particularly if finances are mutual rather than set as who e catches what bill) and he wants a $2K gun to go play with then I could see where 'haveing balls to get it anyway' when she will have to suffer for the purchase with no say on it makes him a POS. OTOH, if they keep some or all money seperate and he has the money for it and the purchase wont make the household do without anything then so long as he stores it safely (not in the 5 year olds toy box) AND hes NOT an overly violent person (I do know a couple guys who dont need to be around any weapon since they are IDIOTS with tempers) then I figure she can deal with it or hit bricks. Basicly the same way that if she likes purses (or whatever) and trys to spend money on a new high end purse that has the lights off for a month then he has every right to tell her she 'cant' get it but if she makes good money on her own and the bills are all paid and it isnt going to cut something else short and she wants a $2k designer purse then he gets to shut up and deal. Also just like the purse thing I can see a difference in WHAT guns. Her buying a $20 purse to carry stuff in is a different critter than her buying a $2k designer purse because its so cool. Him buying a Mosin Nagat, SKS, or used Rem 500 or some such is a bit different from if hes buying a fully decked out Barret .50 or some such. One could be justified as a tool or need the other (lacking some REAL specific situations for either the ourse or the gun) the other is a toy or prestige thing.
That is one way to convince any women about self defense. I have heard of so many women who were raped and or viloently attacked who afterwards became very pro self defense, after the fact. They were the lucky ones that lived to learn from their mistake. Yet how many women have died because of their reluctance to learn how to defend themselves.
If I hired someone to scare my MO titmouse it would have to be someone I didnt like...they wouldnt be likely to make it out upright. We already had several guns in the house but when got engaged took he shoping for a handgun as an engagment present before the ring, then got her CCW permit for her birthday.
My wife tells me to get what I think we need. And, it just happens. We have no problems with it. She and I go prep-shopping together, and discuss big purchases before making them to ensure we don't cut the other expenses short. There needs to be team-work, otherwise you don't have a good team. If we run short in one area, we stock it up. If I want a new book to read, I go get it....yes, I am a nerd who likes to read lots of books. She is the same with regard to her kitchen. I look at the home as having 'battle-stations'. The kitchen and internal upkeep is her battle station, and I don't question her on it. My office, the basement and the outside of our home is my battle station. I mantain these areas, and she does not question it. We divide the financial planning; she does the short-term and I do the long-term. IT works.
Your post was GREAT!!! (Reminded me of a couple people I know, not me) If you ever need a non namby-pamby friend let me know!
I commend Tracy and Tackleberry for their posts. Tracy for the trust in how men are wired and Tackleberry for doing it right. I agree that all decisions should be mutual and dividing and conquering is the best method in a marriage that makes things work. That is simply how God planned for things to work.
] Me neither...:0) I tend to read the comments at "infowars" alot ( waste of time). Its full of crap like that, and, how many folks are pissed,"locked and loaded".."what will it take???" "Won't somebody start something?"... Unfortunately sometimes my 'tude sticks to my shoes and follows me back here.
I gotta admit, I have a problem, my wife wants me to buy guns all the time, trouble is she wants them too, so i have to buy two of everything
I cannot comment on the marriage part since I'm single and do what I want when I want and answer to no one. However, a friend of mine who is a former Marine has to get permission to own any type of weapon from his army wife...I don't know how many times I have told him to get some balls, do what he wants and if the wife don't like it, show her the door.