I don't know how many other gun forums you guys go to but I go to quite a few and have been amazed at how many little ball less twerps start threads asking for advice on how to "Convince" their spouses to let them buy a gun or another gun . Good God , man up or owning the gun wont do you any good because you ain't got the balls to pull the trigger if you would ever need to !!! The most recent and disgusting one was from this little bitch boy who claimed to have at one time owned several Ar 15's and several other rather expensive rifles all in the $1,000 range each . He is now down to one pistol and a 22 rimfire rifle because over the years has sold and traded off for others but in the last few years after the sale his wife has refused to let him spend the money on the replacement he made the deal for !! The last centerfire rifle he owned was a DPMS AP4 .308 and he sold it with the intent of buying a 223 for Home defense and she wont let him !! And get this , they live in the boonies where no doubt a police response time would take forever ! To make matter worse this imbecile has supposedly stayed married to this hag for 18 years . God no wonder we wind up with such horrible choices in politicians and with the moronic laws they make when so many can't even stand up to their wives on such a simple matter . I'm all for financial responsibility and marital bliss and all that but geeze , I'll be damned if I am ever going to go asking for permission like I was a 8 yo kid needing his mommies approval for everything I do or want to spend money on .