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Windows Users Beware

Discussion in 'Technical' started by sec_monkey, Sep 7, 2015.

  1. stg58

    stg58 Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Question withdrawn.
  2. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

    These updates may be slipped into future updates, renamed or made mandatory :(
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  3. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    About tired of lame a** Window's, Time for? Linux I guess ?
  4. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    If you just use to surf the web, might want to switch to Linux Mint. An updated Win system is extremely vulnerable to all kinds of exploits.
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  5. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

    @ghrit I believe @stg58 was saying there are other options available that would be worth trying. That does not mean you have to try them under duress.

    Try them at your own pace :) [winkthumb]

    Some monkeys are using both linux and win. There is no rule that you must use one or the other exclusively :)
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  6. stg58

    stg58 Monkey+++ Founding Member

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  7. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Understood in context. Not the time to switch, me don't thinking.
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  8. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    I understand you're a busy man and your time is valuable. But, you only got a blue screen because you used a Windows operating system. Period.
    You want a recent copy of a stable Linux version (such as from the link I provided) to make the installation as quick and problem-free as possible.

    Nobody is going to make you get Linux, it's FREE. This is only for your benefit, trying to help, not trying to sell you something.
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  9. oldawg

    oldawg Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    GO FOR IT! I'm as computer illiterate as they get. I changed over 5-6 years ago and have not once been tempted to return to the SPAWN OF GATES. Any question I've had concerning Linux has been answered either here or at one of the Linux forums.(I'm the guy who had to ask here how to turn on my speakers after an upgrade). There are many flavors of Linux so bound to be one that suits you. Oh yeah, like Brokor said, IT'S FREE!!
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  10. stg58

    stg58 Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Another use for Linux.
    I have never done it but two guys at work had Win PCs with messed up Win installations and used this method to recover files.

    That's because there’s no way to boot a full Windows system from a USB stick to troubleshoot your PC—well, not without an Enterprise version of Windows andWindows To Go—but anyone can make a free Ubuntu USB drive, CD, or DVD. A Ubuntu live drive can be used as a digital Swiss army knife to troubleshoot all sorts of problems with any PC, whether you need to recover files from a failing computer, diagnose hardware problems, perform a deep virus scan from outside Windows, or even reset a forgotten Windows password.
    We’ll be getting our hands dirty with some Linux terminal commands here, but don’t worry—the Linux terminal won’t bite. You can even copy-paste most of these commands directly into the terminal.

    Linux to the rescue! How Ubuntu can help a computer in distress | PCWorld
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  11. duane

    duane Monkey+++

    Comment on Window10 in Rawles forum this morning about MS downloading Windows10 on your computer "just in case" you decide to upgrade. The link explains part of what to look for. I have a fairly slow internet connection, I will use smoke signals before I install a system on Comcast cable, and sometimes it seems real slow. I opened my windows file and looked at it, looked nice and neat with all those file folders, and decided I would like to know how much space it was using on "my" hard disk. Well 6 keystrokes later and two sub menu down I finally in properties find that there are 20.9 gigabytes in the "windows" read only folder. Now I play a little with Linux, don't really know it, but a system on Raspberry PI uses a 8 gig card for storage and has about 6.5 usable gig after install. Seeing how my Dos 4 came on 3 or 4 floppies, I think there has been some system bloat somewhere. I use Firefox for my browser, but Windows keeps a copy of explorer on my drive and every time it updates, wants to go back to explorer.
    I still have a system on Dos 6 on a milling machine, at work we use NT, and I use Windows 7 or Windows XP at home. Last notebook I bought came with Vista on it, paid to replace it with Window 7. Might be time to get serious about Linux on an internet computer I guess. The hints in this thread have so far kept it from automatically upgrading one piece at a time, but in the long run MS is smarter than I am and I don't really know how to figure out what I need from what they want. Guess it is time to get serious about Linux and buy a Raspberry Pi 2 card and play. Kind of like the idea of a small computer that uses less than 2 a at 5 v and will use most any monitor, key board and mouse and would fit nicely into a small can. Tinfoil hat optional.
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  12. NotSoSneaky

    NotSoSneaky former supporter

    Glad I found this thread. Had to scroll through the past updates and found the three "updates" listed in the OP.
    Figured out how to remove them and then set tighter controls for future "updates".

    @sec_monkey nice catch and thanks for the heads up !
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  13. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

    There are some work arounds :) Some monkeys dual boot Linux and 7 on the same computer. Other monkeys have a win 7 computer for major proprietary software and 3 linux computers for non-proprietary software :) There are multiple technologies that allow you to run win under Linux and vice versa, how well it works depends on just how proprietary the software is, what the system requirements are and the type of DRM the software is using if it has DRM aka copy protection.

    Software like SAP aka sap.com has Linux versions. Oracle also has Linux versions.

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  14. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey Site Supporter+++

    I have a dual boot laptop with xp and Ubuntu. XP NEVER connects to the Internet! Any surfing I do is through the Ubuntu and I do not let it install updates.. I try any new version of Ubuntu out on another laptop and if I am satisfied with it then I may install on my other machines.. I am not all that Tech savey, but I do take warnings here to heart and have been "playing" around with usb loaded op systems/browsers.

    By the way, it is a rare occasion that I even boot windows up anymore..
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2015
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  15. NotSoSneaky

    NotSoSneaky former supporter

    Found the above "updates" listed as "important updates" trying to get back inside today.
    Check your updates before downloading monkeys !
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  16. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

    yep figures :mad::cry::(
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  17. stg58

    stg58 Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Microspyware responded.
    Sounds good I trust them [kissit]

    Exclusive: Microsoft exec responds to Windows 10 privacy backlash - Sep. 28, 2015

    On Monday, Microsoft delivered its first comprehensive response.

    In a blog post, Windows chief Terry Myerson acknowledged that Windows 10 is collecting personal information about its customers to enable some of its best features, including the Cortana virtual assistant. It also collects information about your computer's performance to detect and correct potential bugs.

    But he said Windows 10 users have the ability to control what information they share with Microsoft.

    "We're learning how to explain all this to customers," Myerson told CNNMoney in an exclusive interview. "Our privacy principles are good ... now we need to keep listening and learning."

    Microsoft: We need info to make Windows 10 run better
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  18. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

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  19. NotSoSneaky

    NotSoSneaky former supporter

    FIFY. [tongue]
  20. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    I noticed that in my up-dates Windows 10 was in the optional and the box was checked. I never checked that box. It happened on both computers.
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