On another board a bunch of people got ripped off (knives and/or money) by a guy who well let us just say is no longer a member there and probably no longer a member on some other knife boards by now either. I'm not even going to go into details. A couple of upstanding members of that board held two raffles donating their own personal knifes (other people donated knives as well as secondary prizes) to help pay the people back who had lost money to the scumbag who had ripped them off. These gentleman are in every sense of the word awesome. I don't know that many people who would do that. I didn't win anything in the first raffle (which didn't bother me one bit), I just had a lot of fun. The guy who did win tried to not take the knife (he wasn't allowed to do that). He then turned around and did the second raffle so that enough could be raised to not only finish paying everyone off but help send money to feed the animals who got abandoned during Katrina (hey we sent enough stuff to the people - in some cases way more...it's time to help the pets and such for a change). I threw in my $25 , others threw in a bunch more and other stuff as well. They drew the names early Monday with the top winner to choose whatever item they wished, and then the 2nd person, etc... Turned out I was the top winner. Oh goody??? First off he wouldn't let me have him keep his knife (I tried that). Second off, I didn't have a clue (still don't) when it comes to folders... I chose the first one offered...a Snody Custom I'm glad I did, especially now that I've received it (it is after all my very first custom folder). On the other hand if I'd of any clue in the world what this was valued at I would of not only fainted dead away I would of never, ever, ever, ever said this was the one I wanted (let alone accepted it). But he made sure I didn't know until after I had posted. I think he had a pretty good idea I was clueless as to the value of the knife... Damn thing costs more than the Colt 1991A1 I just bought for my birthday last month Gorgeous knife though...I dont' even like folders and I like this one.