WTF with all the Rudeness?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Seacowboys, Dec 3, 2007.


  1. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    We had a nice little community here that was respectful of one another even when our opinions differed greatly. This seems to have dissappeared along about the time we hit eight hundred or so members. I suspect a troll force, maybe even .gov subsidized? I am sure that the desenters are mostly from Northern States,because if they are Southerners and disagree so passionately with trivial crap, they will exceuse themselves from the table, drive to your house and kick your ass.
    Some of these threads really almost make me support gun control because I certainly don't feel safe knowing someone that can't even get along with a keyboard actually ownes firearms.
     
  2. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Thought you were talking about me there for a minute [coffee2]

    So you think we've been infested by [troll] [troll] that's too bad, glad it's somebody else and not me this time.
     
  3. Nailbender

    Nailbender Monkey+++

    Hate to say it but it could be worse ... a whole lot.
     
  4. Blackjack

    Blackjack Monkey+++


    He's very right Sea..... this is still the most polite online community I've ever seen by a real healthy margin.

    Yes, it's a little different now... it's growing pains. I just looked and we have 998 members, when I joined nearly two years ago there was like a hundred or so. And if I remember correctly, there have always been periodic squabbles.
     
  5. Tracy

    Tracy Insatiably Curious Moderator Founding Member

    (please note, NB - I'm not picking on you, just expounding on your words)

    So it's okay then?

    If "A" is acceptable today, then tomorrow are we to accept "AB", based on the acceptance of "A"?

    Trash, by any other name, would still stink.
     
  6. Nailbender

    Nailbender Monkey+++

    So it's okay then? ... Not by me in any shape size or form. I don't have the button but then who am I to call the shots on censorship of free speech as I just be a guest.

    I have been on sites that have gotten to AZ and some --A. Like BJ said " It is growing pains " Everyone is a individual, we are not all the same. There is so much involved into what makes a person that person.

    I also have little doubt that should a AZ show up he/she/they will be taken to the woodshed.
     
  7. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    It HAS happened a couple times. We try to use a light touch moderating (thinking that will help keep things civil, simply by self discipline) but now and then the paddle has come out. Mostly, the light touch has worked, thankfully. I think none of the mods like being a hard a$$ed cop or feels the need to be a parent to what should be grownups.

    Yes, anyone that gets slapped has the right to appeal. Yes, for the borderline cases, we do take counsel off line and take a decision if the paddle is needed. Details are in the CoC.

    Nailbender, by this moment, you have figured Tracy had her tongue firmly up against her cheekbone--. She does that now and then --. But no, we do not intend to let a creeping degradation of the standards become a norm. We want to keep this place as a nice one to visit, learn from, teach and enjoy. We hope to let self discipline and common courtesy govern to the greatest extent possible given the variety of folks that are now and will become members. You ain't just a guest, you can raise a beef if needed.
     
  8. Nailbender

    Nailbender Monkey+++

    I have no problem with what Tracy sayed, I know what she ment and I took it kindly. I be still feeling my way around here before I let bender loose [lolol].
    This be more then a good site and y'all have my congrats. Also TN Andy told me iffin I came here that I had better behave or he was gonna come back up here in January and kick my but I could have misunderstood.
     
  9. hartage

    hartage Monkey+++

    Maybe this is a solid indicator on who does and does not drink decaf ?
     
  10. Nailbender

    Nailbender Monkey+++

    I can't stand the stuff myself and I drink a lot of coffee and smoke a lot of cigaretts and lately shovel a lot of snow.
     
  11. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    I have said my piece in a thread that was moved to the inferno.
    I noticed a very definite increase in the funk level and I wasn't sure if it was my natural judgemental troll coming out or what. I'm all for giving people time to fit in with the occasional boundry reminder( a few bared teeth) should be enough to steer the ship back down the middle of the comfort channel....Somethings' changed. I am becoming paranoid about posting my usual banal but hopefully entertaining internet dredgings ...I am starting to consider what folks will think of me(bad azz enough?) if I post this or that instead of just being myself...

    I for one will not be around if it it gets to "A G" I think Goatmans slammed screen door door is still swingin in the breeze, it won't even hit me in the arse on the way out....Other than feeling overwhelmingly bad leaving all the silverbacks to fight for their survival here..I can't run out on the cadre(it's agin my nature.). but Somethings changed for the worse.
     
  12. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    It's really too bad that we have to resort to locking an otherwise useful, informative or thought-provoking thread because a few decide to tear it down. I also apologize to the members at large whom are forced to endure some of the negativity and malicious arguments that a few have used when their opinion was in the minority.

    When we set this place up, I fought like hell to protect free speech. I have been opposed to heavy handedness from Mods. Been against banning out of spite. Now I hear of people leaving because they don't like the circus. What to do now?

    While we have a well articulated Code, http://www.survivalmonkey.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4757
    we do also reserve the right to terminate the use privileges of those that are deemed to be more trouble than they are worth -even without a clear cut violation of the rules. Those that are having problems fitting into our little community might want to rethink their style of discussion rather quickly if they would like to remain members in good standing at the Monkey. I'm not having a very good few months and my mental state is already in the red.

    Play nice
     
  13. sniper-66

    sniper-66 Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    I belong to several boards and the ones that have a specific target rarely get off track or political. Handloaders Bench is about reloading bullets and it is hard to curse our president because I can't properly seat a bullet. The other boards that have a general, say what you want thread, typically slide down hill in name calling and degredation. Maybe putting "General Topics" in the members only area will keep rif raf from trolling in for a romp. In other words, you have to be a legit member before you can misbehave and get spanked.
     
  14. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    Any members only thread allowing members to trash each other is gonna still leave hurt feelings...
    keeping threads public is the advertising that fills the ranks with new members, if we are to run on a growth agenda...sheer fact of the matter is politics and religion are pure grist for the mill. Unless you want to discuss: ar vs. ak adinfinitum? .And I don't see why adults can't put on their bow ties, tuck in their shirt tails, and discuss something without trying to gain stature(ego points)by stepping on the head of the monkey next to them.it never works with the rest of the cage. "well I'm better than so and so. hes an idiot. So. You crapped on another monk needing to prove it. ( -5pts in my book).Youl'l notice our esteemed elder(? in stature only) statesmen :mr(s). Minuteman and Brokor are seldom seen dabbling any where near these urination fests
    Perhaps Nothing to prove???. Comes with wisdom and security?

    Sea; no offense I take it you're a salty seaport saloon brawler, taking on all comers.and not concerned the least about getting bilge slop all over your shoes.(20mm lahti my bright red monkey butt :)))...)
    and ol EL well hell he's from tejas and cant help it(something about young pups)....gh likes to mix it up too...
    sniper66: likes a challenge he flies a collection of unaerodynamic mechanical parts in close formation under fire. that under ordinary circumstances would not want to fly.
    the ladies justseem to know better.
     
  15. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    that's what the Inferno is for

    last man standing rules [booze]
     
  16. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    take out the trash [gone]
     
  17. Valkman

    Valkman Knifemaker Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Talking about heavy-handed Mods, taking out the trash - I knew you wanted me back for a reason! LOL I have absolutely no problem dropping the hammer on malcontents and trolls! [beer]

    [patr]
     
  18. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Hey, good to see you back Valkman, long time no see. [beer]
     
  19. Bear

    Bear Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++ Founding Member Iron Monkey

    Things change...

    SeaCowboys, I've seen what you see for a while now (even mentioned it to a few here) and good folks come and go because of it...

    Good to see Valkman back... I missed that big old grumpy bear of a nothing but cool dude![beer]


    What to do?

    That's the tough one... just like some supposed group scenarios... what's the tough rules, how do you enforce them or compromise them and risk losing valuable members or worse.

    Hope everyone plays nicely? Courteous Respect and the art of conversation seem to have new meanings these days. Can't go the distance? Nothing contructive left to contribute? No well thought out articulate response. Well then... resort to ear biting in the ring. Character and Dignity also seem to have new meaning as well.

    At some point everyone takes a stand. It just doesn't have to be, nor should it be, on top of someone else.

    Not on my watch anyway.

    Sign of the times. Look at the way we treat each other....

    JMHO....
     
  20. Northwoods

    Northwoods Monkey+++

    Northern states???:shock:
    I try not to be rude,poke a little fun at CRC once in a while.
    but that is about it.
     
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