From mm's link to the journey to forever project:An ngo insider reports on a seminar discussion by wto folks on getting thdit these organizations.e wto "moving again after "disasters" in seattle. http://www.journeytoforever.org/fyi_previous2.html#0503 instead of bringing protestors( the people) inside the machinations and incorporating ideas they only wanted to discredit these groups and invcrease security.