Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by Witch Doctor 01, Jun 30, 2016.

  1. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

    This Wednesday, Yee received a five-year prison sentence for accepting bribes and trafficking in arms...

    After initially denying culpability, Yee pleaded guilty to the charges last summer.
    Ex-Calif. State Sen. Leland Yee, gun control champion, heading to prison for weapons trafficking

    Alleged arms trafficker, and anti-gun California Democratic State Senator Leland Yee knew that an arms deal he was attempting to facilitate would send money to the Moro Islamic Liberation Front...
    Senator Yee Knew Conspiracy Would Send Money To Islamic Militants And Arms To North Africa
  2. marlas1too

    marlas1too Monkey+++

    instant karma love it
  3. Salted Weapon

    Salted Weapon Monkey+++

  4. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    Confucius say, Yee has many anal probes in future.
  5. Salted Weapon

    Salted Weapon Monkey+++

    Guess he was feeling pretty cocky, seems that will continue !:whistle:
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  6. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    The sentence was way too light, he knowingly funded evil men and undoubtedly contributed to the murders of innocent people.
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  7. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Kinda of like a "Fast & Furious" Weapon being used in the Istanbul Terror Attack... Let Obummer and Holder TRY and explain that one away.....
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  8. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    I thought it was allegedly used in Paris...and the JW article said it really couldn't confirm it was from F&F...but it was from an F&F dealer.
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  9. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    You were correct, and I read it wrong... Not Istanbul, but Paris.....
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  10. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I like peeling bananas and (occasionally) people.

    So, what's the technical definition of treason?
  11. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    It's the only crime defined in the Constitution, I believe. Article III Section III:
    "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
    The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted
  12. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    "attainder" - the forfeiture of land and civil rights suffered as a consequence of a sentence of death for treason or felony.

    Which indicates that death is a possible punishment for treason. Aid and comfort to the enemy seems sufficient to complete the offense. (That would seem to include hanoi jane.)
  13. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    Hanoi Jane, yes...she went over there and her actions gave them aid and comfort. But ya gotta be careful when trying to apply "speech" as aid or comfort...technically the 1st Amendment, since it is an amendment, could be interpreted to protect speech that might be considered aiding or comforting the enemy. The following gives a good summary:

    "Not until 1945 did the Supreme Court of the United States review a treason conviction. Cramer v. United States was the first. Seven other cases followed, two in the Supreme Court and five in United States courts of appeal: Haupt v. United States, Chandler v. United States, Gillars v. United States, Best v. United States, Burgman v. United States, D’Aquino v. United States, and Kawakita v. United States.
    Cumulatively, in these eight decisions arising from World War II the federal courts established that for a prosecutor to obtain a treason conviction he must prove four elements beyond a reasonable doubt: (1) an overt act, (2) testified to by two witnesses, (3) manifesting an intent to betray the United States (which can be inferred from the overt act itself), and (4) providing aid and comfort to the enemy.
    Note that not one of these essential elements requires a speech component.

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