You can live on Minimum wage per McDonalds!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by VisuTrac, Jul 16, 2013.


  1. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

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  2. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Hm. No taxes, either.
     
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  3. Gunny Highway

    Gunny Highway Hard Work and Sacrifice blessed by God's Grace Site Supporter

    a lotta folks here in Cali have figured that no tax thing out Ghrit....it's why I am moving. Those who vote for a living do well here....those of us who work...not so much
     
  4. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Most minimum wage employees are not worth the wages paid them. It is a starter wage, while workers are learning how to be productive, how to make money for the company. As their skills and experience increase, they are expected to move on to better paying jobs. It is not supposed to be a way of life. And raising minimum wage. simply raises all wages, which increases costs, and raises prices of finished goods.

    If a supplier/ driver gets a dollar extra, and a pizza maker gets a dollar extra, and the delivery driver gets a dollar extra, and the cashier gets a dollar extra, that $8. pizza just became a $12. pizza. Then the manager wants a raise, because everyone else got a raise.....and it never ends.
     
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  5. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey Site Supporter

    "McDonalds and Visa Show It's Easy to Get By on a Low Salary as Long as You Don't Eat"

    There was a time when I lived on frozen TexMex Food and cooked cracked soybeans. Soy beans with milk for morning meal, soybeans mixed in with the TexMex food for dinner. Hamburger once a week for my veggies.

    Plenty left over to party on with one job.

    Where did I go wrong?

    YMMV
     
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  6. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey Site Supporter

    Forgot to add those great meals at the Aberdeen Floating Chow House Boats were prety good too.
     
  7. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    Net income.
     
  8. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    The two figures I have to scoff at are home and auto insurance for $100 total per month (sure can't do that here in hurricane country), and health insurance for $20 per month (from what past century did they get that ridiculous low figure) .... health insurance is going thru the roof with Obamacare.
     
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  9. Silversnake

    Silversnake Silverback

    Health Insurance for 20 a month? My kid pays 50 a week for her job.
     
  10. Byte

    Byte Monkey+++

    Does Mickey D's have a health plan for their min wagers that only costs ~$10/pay period? My guess is that they do not. But franchise holders will soon be required to provide a plan when Obummercare goes into effect. Or they'll shift any employees over #49 to part time. Or they'll divide their franchises out under different companies/corporations to keep each individual business under the 50 employee cutoff.

    I work for a very small company that has 4 family members on the corp board and 2 employees and the company pays 80% of my monthly premium. My health insurance costs me $30/pay period (just under $800/yr). Add kids to that and it goes up by ~$220/pay period! Their math certainly isn't taking into account any parents working 75h/week! My cost has only gone up about $4/pay period each year for the past 4 years. It's good coverage with a $500 deductible & 80/20 coinsurance. I am very thankful for it though I don't agree that companies should be required to provide any insurance coverage other than workers comp. Using health coverage as a benefit/incentive, however, a company can attract better employees. The last two corps I worked for paid 100% of their employees HC premiums. Though they both have since stopped paying 100%. One is at 90% and the other at 80%. So it's definitely possible to have cheap HC but it is becoming much more uncommon.

    It will be interesting to see just how much Obamacare lowers health care costs. Yes I did say lowers...for some reason I'm feeling all touchy-feely & optimistic about his promises today and am hoping for some change. Must be that 2O12 bumper sticker I saw on that Prius on the way to work this morning. I think that guy must know something I don't! o_O

    Byte
     
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  11. tulianr

    tulianr Don Quixote de la Monkey

    I don't think Obamacare is going to lower anything. All it will do is shift more money into the pockets of the Insurance Companies, and put businesses, and private citizens, in a greater bind. I'd have been impressed if he'd come up with a way to increase the level of health care available to the common citizen without making the insurance companies richer. Our healthcare/health insurance system is out of control and is a gaping wound in our nation's economic health. Historians, when they write "The Rise and Fall of the American Empire," will note our healthcare system as one of the factors leading to the decline and fall of our nation. Unchecked greed will be our undoing.
     
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  12. DarkLight

    DarkLight I self identify as a Blackhawk Attack Helicopter! Site Supporter


    Agree mostly, but not completely. I think it WILL lower a few things:
    • Productivity
    • New Business start-ups
    • Profits
    • New hires
    • Job satisfaction
    Otherwise you're pretty much spot on. And where in the WORLD/time did they get those numbers.

    Lastly, telling me to work more because you don't pay me for $**t is a little touched in the head. That is the actual PROOF that you can't live on minimum wage (which you should be trying to do anyway). As was said, it's a starting wage...and many who earn it are STILL underqualified!
     
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  13. ditch witch

    ditch witch resident bacon hoarder Site Supporter+

    Based on a former co-worker, I'd say it's actually quite possible. Here's how you do it... and judging from the McDonalds nearest us I'd say this is exactly the sort of worker they want to target.

    Monthly Net Income
    Income (1st job) 1,105
    Income (2nd job selling 'scription oxy to your coworkers) 955
    Monthly Net Income 2060

    Monthly Expenses
    Savings 0
    Rent (in govt housing, aka cracktown) 55
    Car Payment (take elderly mother's car, she can walk) 0
    Car/Home Insurance (who needs insurance?) 0
    Health Insurance (medicaid) 0
    Heating/Electric (completely paid for through Panhandle Transit) 0
    Cable/Phone 100
    Food (154 a month in food stamps provided) 100
    Gas 150
    Monthly Expenses Total 375

    Monthly Spending Money 1685
     
  14. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    I can't like that. Here's a "Truth".
     
  15. franks71vw

    franks71vw Monkey+++

    Get the F out of here McDees.... how can people be so stupid...
     
  16. franks71vw

    franks71vw Monkey+++


    Agree, time to make the people conform with socialist tendencys
     
  17. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    LibTards are GREAT at spending other peoples money, but when that money runs out, they get very protective of their money...... ......
     
  18. Ajax

    Ajax Monkey++

    The majority of minimum wage workers are in high school or college. If your 40 years old working for minimum wage you have much bigger problems than making minimum wage.
     
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  19. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    Or you live in Michigan.
     
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