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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Quigley_Sharps, Oct 9, 2007.

  1. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Dragonfly or Insect Spy? Scientists at Work on Robobugs.

    By Rick Weiss
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Tuesday, October 9, 2007; Page A03

    Vanessa Alarcon saw them while working at an antiwar rally in Lafayette Square last month.

    "I heard someone say, 'Oh my god, look at those,' " the college senior from New York recalled. "I look up and I'm like, 'What the hell is that?' They looked kind of like dragonflies or little helicopters. But I mean, those are not insects."
    Out in the crowd, Bernard Crane saw them, too.

    "I'd never seen anything like it in my life," the Washington lawyer said. "They were large for dragonflies. I thought, 'Is that mechanical, or is that alive?' "

    That is just one of the questions hovering over a handful of similar sightings at political events in Washington and New York. Some suspect the insectlike drones are high-tech surveillance tools, perhaps deployed by the Department of Homeland Security.

    Others think they are, well, dragonflies -- an ancient order of insects that even biologists concede look about as robotic as a living creature can look.

    No agency admits to having deployed insect-size spy drones. But a number of U.S. government and private entities acknowledge they are trying. Some federally funded teams are even growing live insects with computer chips in them, with the goal of mounting spyware on their bodies and controlling their flight muscles remotely.

    The robobugs could follow suspects, guide missiles to targets or navigate the crannies of collapsed buildings to find survivors.

    The technical challenges of creating robotic insects are daunting, and most experts doubt that fully working models exist yet.

    "If you find something, let me know," said Gary Anderson of the Defense Department's Rapid Reaction Technology Office.

    But the CIA secretly developed a simple dragonfly snooper as long ago as the 1970s. And given recent advances, even skeptics say there is always a chance that some agency has quietly managed to make something operational.

    "America can be pretty sneaky," said Tom Ehrhard, a retired Air Force colonel and expert in unmanned aerial vehicles who is now at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, a nonprofit Washington-based research institute.

  2. Blackjack

    Blackjack Monkey+++

    Wow.... a lot more advanced than the vertibird I played with as a child.
  3. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    They need to loose the camera and give it a stinger with deadly poison.
  4. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    A wee dab of polonium, perchance?
  5. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    "America can be pretty sneaky,"
    The guy who is talking defines America as the .Gov,
    not the free citizen side of things.
  6. monkeyman

    monkeyman Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    If they have them with cameras then Im sure they have fitted some to ALSO have stingers with say sarin or some other meathod of eleminateing 'undesirable threats'.
  7. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    Sounds like a good reason to attend a peace rally with a butterfly nt....take em home put em in a jar see who shows up to claim them..
  8. monkeyman

    monkeyman Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    but are you REALLY sure you would want to deal with whoever showed up? Might be kind of like trying to catch a tiger by the tail. What are you gonna do once you have it? lol
  9. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    I'm thinking "Peace Rally-Skeet Shoot". Always look for the positive side.
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