Yurt vs tiny house vs RV

Discussion in 'Off Grid Living' started by cwb, Oct 31, 2017.

  1. cwb

    cwb Monkey

    Hey all,
    New kid here, hoping I'm posting this in the right place.
    I'm planning to buy some property in the next few months with the goal of ultimately going off grid and creating a small homestead. I've gone back and forth on the type of structure/housing I want to create, and whether it makes more sense to build a temporary structure while I work on something permanent, or just jump into building the permanent structure and tent on the land.
    My budget for housing is about $25,000. I see pros and cons to all of my options and I'm wondering what others would do in this scenario. Buy a small RV and modify it for off grid living? Stay in a small RV while working on a bigger project? Tent while I work on a converted shed-type house? Yurt? It's just me so I can be pretty flexible.

    So, what would you do?
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  2. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Seems to me that your more interesting problem is utilities, water, waste disposal, etc. With those questions answered, it then becomes how much space you need and for how long the permanent building will take to construct. Personally, I'd rule out a yurt unless you figure to spend a LONG time in permanent home construction, in which case it would be a good option. The "small" rv will remain useful after you move into the permanent house, so there's something to be said for that option. Tenting can be fun, but not so much up north where it seems you just might be, but not a bad choice if you get the structure weathered in before it gets snowy.
  3. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    What would I do?

    Build a pole barn and live in it until the house is built...
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  4. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    I'd go the RV or camper van route. If a bad storm approaches, you can UA the AO quickly and easily.
    Of course, my considerations are those of someone being a lifelong resident in Hurricane Alley.
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  5. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    I have friends that went a similar route - they built the shop/garage first complete with bathroom, then lived in it while they built the house. It worked out great because they had dry storage for supplies and easy access.
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  6. Oltymer

    Oltymer Monkey++

    I'd opt for the small RV. Getting it setup, sewage, water, electric of whatever type will be quicker and allow you to get to work on your more permanent structure. Then if you want to bail out for whatever reason, just hookup and drive away. The small RV will also serve you post construction, or could be sold.
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  7. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

  8. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

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  9. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

  10. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    I too would do the pole barn, but I would also buy an older used RV. You must have septic and water. Park the RV in the pole barn, you have dry storage, protection from the cold, much more quiet when it rains, and a roof to mount solar onto for electricity.

    And...Welcome to the Monkey...
  11. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    I did the pole barn while building the house. It was best for us to ensure the house would be well insulated and all the other issues we have in our A.O. an R.V. would have also worked for us for a short time, and the mobility could be a good benefit.
    It all comes down to the weather conditions in your A.O. And and how long it's likely to take building!
    Also, depending on where in the world you are, you can pick up used moble homes practically for free, and even some times people will pay you to take them! I sort of wish I had known about that before we built!
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  12. Mountain mama

    Mountain mama Monkey++

    I love yurts! But i still say the pole barn idea is a great one.
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  13. Altoidfishfins

    Altoidfishfins Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    As ghrit says, utilities are essential. You could get away without a septic if you put in a dry well and use a composting toilet. But you must have a reliable source of water, and if it's deep, a source of power to pump it. Without reliable water source (don't think you'd want to truck it in, that sucks) you're at square one.
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  14. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    The RV is going to provide a complete living space you can move around on the property to see what works .
    If you get snow you want a good southern exposure the sun will help melt away the snow and of course power the solar panels.
    trees are a big issue as well if you plan on wind mills . I would.
    Also logistics for property drainage and the softness /hardness of the ground matter too.
    How and where you lay out your septic and or well or pond ,
    Being able to move the RV around for the first year or so can provide some real perspective .
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  15. runswithdogs

    runswithdogs Monkey+++

    Personally id opt for the Yurt :).
    as a permanent solution that is. . A well made one will still be relativly cost effective (and you can even make yourself) and made properly they are comfortable, warm (people use them in -40 or colder in some areas, with the right woodburner quit cozily) if just yourself then even a smaller one of 18-20' could be quit livable. Plus you can add a second or more & link them together later to extend your living space if needed. Maintenance is reasonably low (need to be taken down to air out once a year and checked over, a smaller one can be done by 1-2 people in a few hours to take down and/or erect. and you can relocate if you get bored of the scenery. (assuming you build a wooden deck base and not a concrete pad. )

    If you order one, its just a matter of building the base deck and once you get it, setting it up. Get a couple (competent) people to help & you could be moving in the same day.:D

    No advice if the people you get arn't competent though:p
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  16. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    A buddy of mine and his wife took a little weekend vacation about a year ago up in the mountains of NC, and rented a Yurt for 2 days in a secluded area. He said during the night, he heard footsteps, limbs snapping , and he was scared as hell, clutching a 9 mm pistol. He swears it was a Sasquatch , although he never saw it, he said he found a footprint twice the size of his foot the next morning.
    The moral of the story here is, that Yurt does not have enough skin between me and the outside world for my comfort. If that's all I had , I would rather sleep in the open, at least I could have a view of what's around me.
  17. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Just to muddy the water a bit, have shipping containers entered the thought process?
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  18. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    I would go with something like this at $9,800 2008 Bunkhouse Camper Trailers QUEEN, HOLLY MI - - RVtrader.com

    Pluses -
    Has a full kitchen and bath
    Sleeping for 8
    Has a heating/air conditioning system
    Fully self contained
    Fully furnished
    Onboard entertainment system
    Large enough to fight Cabin Fever

    That leaves $15,000 for the pole barn and $1,500 to $2000 for a little solar system to run an inverter.

    Assuming septic and water are already there....
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  19. Kamchuka

    Kamchuka Grease Monkey

    I'll second... Or fifth whatever, the RV idea. It just makes sense. The pluses are as everyone stated. You can keep it for mobile ops, sell it for most what ya paid if you get in it right, and your left with dry storage.

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  20. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    I say go with the mobile option.
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