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ALERT: Flu pandemic starts 20 dead in Mexico city

Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by fortunateson, Apr 25, 2009.

  1. fortunateson

    fortunateson I hate Illinois Nazis!

    Well, if all the stories of "population culling" are true, this could be its start.
    Flu pandemic starts in APRIL ?!!? A mix of bird, human and swine viruses ?!?!

    I also find it curious that it starts in a sweltering city of 20 million most of whom are desperately poor and don't fit your NWO definition of "breeding stock".

    If this blows over, it should serve as a warning to prepers everywhere - stock surgical masks, gas masks, tamiflu, antibiotics for secondary infections - be able to live without outside contact for weeks. (woe is me )


    stay well, stay alive!
  2. dragonfly

    dragonfly Monkey+++

    68 at last count, BUT, 1 DR. in Mexico says he has seen 200 already!
    Coupled with earlier reports that have since "disappeared" of 16 deaths in so California. Now there are 6 cases in Calif., 2 in Texas, and 75 in Ny.
  3. daydreamer

    daydreamer Monkey++

    I just ran an errand and on the way back I had to slow down and take it in. One of the neighbors is duct taping clear plastic over all the windows on his house. I'm sure it 's nothing.
  4. SLugomist

    SLugomist Monkey++

    maybe he's about to paint his home?
  5. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Of fumigate the roaches?
  6. SLugomist

    SLugomist Monkey++

    Actually just looked at the news. There is a real international response from this. Russia banned meat from the americas, New Zealand Scotland Canada have reported cases, world airports are screening and quaritining people with syptoms or fever.
  7. fortunateson

    fortunateson I hate Illinois Nazis!

    I don't for a second believe that this is naturally occurring -

    Starts in April in Mex city (daytime temp. 84 deg.) - Flu is not easily spread in warm weather.

    Is a mixture of human, bird and swine viruses - WTF!?!?

    Weaker strain found in the US with no explanation - maybe to make the deaths of half the population of Mexico look legit while preserving the choice slaves of the banking cartel?

    My advice - get Tamiflu as fast as possible by hook or by crook - use your imagination.

    Second: Stock up on Zicam - the OTC nasal gel. This absolutely does stop colds. I've been using it for 4 years and have had only 2 colds in that time - mostly due to my own lax use of the product. Flu virus is different, but I'm hoping this has some general antiviral effects, especially with viruses entering the respiratory system.

    Buy Surgical masks N95 at least (recommended for SARS)

    Better yet - buy gas masks with UNOPENED filters rated NBC.

    Be well!
  8. fortunateson

    fortunateson I hate Illinois Nazis!


    BTW - they are definitely under-reporting this outbreak.
    My wife was just at the doctor's and the doc told her that they just saw their first case. This is in a suburban practice in North Carolina.

    So far CDC website does not list NC as a outbreak site. - We'll see how long it takes them.
  9. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    NORTH AMERICA: Flu outbreak raises a set of questions

    NORTH AMERICA: Flu outbreak raises a set of questions
    New York Times
    Donald G. McNeil Jr.
    Many questions surround the current outbreak of swine flu, which caused the United States government on Sunday to declare a public health emergency after confirming 20 cases in this country. American officials stressed that the cases here were all mild, with only one person hospitalized.
    But in Mexico, where the outbreak began, swine flu is believed to have killed at least 81 people and to have given about 1,300 serious breathing problems. The central question every flu expert in the world would like answered, Dr. Martin Cetron, director of global migration and quarantine for the Centers for Disease Control, said in an interview, is how many mild cases Mexico has had.
    “We may just be looking at the tip of the iceberg, which would give you a skewed initial estimate of the case fatality rate,” he said, meaning that there may have been tens of thousands of mild infections, which would then make the number of deaths seemingly low. In that case, as the flu spreads, it would not be surprising if the number of people who become seriously ill remained relatively small.
    Right now, the answer is unknowable. Only two laboratories the world, the C.D.C. in Atlanta and the Canadian national laboratory in Winnipeg, have developed the reagents needed to do a positive test for the new flu strain, so samples from any other country must be sent to them for confirmation.
    Even in 1918, experts point out, the pandemic Spanish flu infected at least 500 million of the world’s 1.5 billion people, killing 50 million. Many of those lives would have been saved if anti-flu drugs, antibiotics and mechanical ventilators had existed.
    In early April, Mexico had noticed that it had high numbers of serious respiratory illnesses and some deaths. It began sending samples to Canada and the United States, asking for help genotyping the new virus.
    The ages of the victims in Mexico also concern health officials. Unlike typical flu seasons, when infants and the aged are usually the most vulnerable, none of the initial deaths in Mexico were in people older than 60 or younger than 3 years old, a spokeswoman with the World Health Organization said. Pandemic flus — like the 1918 flu and outbreaks in 1957 and 1968 — often strike young, healthy people the hardest. When a new virus emerges, deaths may occur in healthy adults who mount the strongest immune reactions. Their own defenses — inflammation and leaking fluid in lung cells — can essentially drown them from inside.
    A second hypothesis, Dr. Cetron said, is that there is some other factor in Mexico that increased the lethality of the virus, such as co-infection with another microbe or an unwittingly dangerous form of treatment.
  10. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    U.S. declares public health emergency as swine flu spreads

    U.S. declares public health emergency as swine flu spreads
    The United States government declared a public health emergency Sunday as the number of identified cases of swine flu in the nation rose to 20.
    The declaration is part of a "standard operating procedure" that will make available additional government resources to combat the virus, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said at the White House.
    Additional cases of swine flu are expected to be reported in the coming days, added Dr. Richard Besser, acting director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
    No one has died in the U.S. from swine flu, officials said Sunday.
    In New York City, Mayor Michael Bloomberg said eight students at St. Francis Prepatory School in Queens have tested positive for swine flu. More than 100 students at the school were absent with flu-like symptoms last week, he said.
    State public health officials in Ohio confirmed one case of swine flu on Sunday. There have been seven confirmed cases in California, two in Kansas, and two in Texas, Besser said.
    The World Health Organization advised all countries to be on the lookout for "unusual" outbreaks of flu, after an emergency meeting Saturday as the seriousness of the outbreak became clear.
    By Sunday, 81 deaths in Mexico had been deemed "likely linked" to swine flu. Viral testing has confirmed 20 cases, said Dr. Jose A. Cordova Villalobos, Mexico's health secretary.
    In Mexico City, the massive downtown Cathedral of Mexico City was open but Masses were not scheduled. Dozens of worshippers put on masks and went inside the church anyway to pray on their own.
    Canada confirmed its first cases of swine flu on Sunday, with four people said to have the virus in the eastern province of Nova Scotia, health officials said.
    Dr. Robert Strang, Nova Scotia's chief public health officer, said the cases were among students who had recently traveled to Mexico.
    Strang said the people affected were only "mildly ill," and all are recovering. He said people who had recently been traveling should call their doctor and stay home if they suffer flu-like symptoms.
    In New Zealand, officials said 22 students and three teachers back from a three-week-long language trip to Mexico may have been infected with the swine flu virus.
    The 25 students and teachers at Auckland's Rangitoto College returned to New Zealand via Los Angeles on Saturday.
  11. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    US: Human swine flu investigation

    US: Human swine flu investigation
    Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
    Human cases of swine influenza A (H1N1) virus infection have been identified in the United States. Human cases of swine influenza A (H1N1) virus infection also have been identified internationally. The current U.S. case count is provided below.
    State # of laboratory confirmed cases
    California 7 cases
    Kansas 2 cases
    New York City 8 cases
    Ohio 1 case
    Texas 2 cases
    TOTAL COUNT 20 cases
    Investigations are ongoing to determine the source of the infection and whether additional people have been infected with swine influenza viruses.
    CDC is working very closely with officials in states where human cases of swine influenza A (H1N1) have been identified, as well as with health officials in Mexico, Canada and the World Health Organization. This includes deploying staff domestically and internationally to provide guidance and technical support. CDC has activated its Emergency Operations Center to coordinate this investigation.
    Laboratory testing has found the swine influenza A (H1N1) virus susceptible to the prescription antiviral drugs oseltamivir and zanamivir and has issued interim guidance for the use of these drugs to treat and prevent infection with swine influenza viruses. CDC also has prepared interim guidance on how to care for people who are sick and interim guidance on the use of face masks in a community setting where spread of this swine flu virus has been detected. This is a rapidly evolving situation and CDC will provide new information as it becomes available.
    There are everyday actions people can take to stay healthy.
    * Cover your nose and mouth with a tissue when you cough or sneeze. Throw the tissue in the trash after you use it.
    * Wash your hands often with soap and water, especially after you cough or sneeze. Alcohol-based hands cleaners are also effective.
    * Avoid touching your eyes, nose or mouth. Germs spread that way.
    Try to avoid close contact with sick people.
    * Influenza is thought to spread mainly person-to-person through coughing or sneezing of infected people.
    * If you get sick, CDC recommends that you stay home from work or school and limit contact with others to keep from infecting them.
  12. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    The Swine Flu-Fodder for the conspiracy theorists!

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    Apparently the President of the United States shook hands with an archaeologist who died the next day of "flu-like symptoms".

    Hmmmm. The potential conspiracy theories stagger the imagination.

    La Raza: The United States initiated the swine flu, using the President to spread it as a way of keeping la raza down and preventing the re-occupation of the Southwest by its rightful inhabitants. [​IMG]

    Right Wing: More proof that our president is actually an illegal alien, because everyone knows its an illegal alien disease. [​IMG]

    Left Wing: The CIA, as head of the military industrial complex, attempted to assassinate the president using the swine flu to head off potential prosecutions for waterboarding. [​IMG]

    The CIA: We have no knowledge of the swine flu being spread by the re-use of poorly sanitized waterboarding equipment, and decline to comment. [​IMG]

    The National Enquirer: The president is actually a space alien, and immune to the swine flu. [​IMG]

    Morgan Spurlock: In the sequel to "Supersize Me", the documentary "Super Swine Me" explains how the swine flu is spread by fast food restaurants, and is responsible for our nationwide epidemic of obesity as we all turn into pigs. [​IMG]

    Michael Moore: In the sequel to his film "Sicko", Mr. Moore's film "Swine-o" explores the link between the swine flu and pharmacuetical companies who created the virus in order to cash in on the vaccine. [​IMG]

    Al-Jazeera: The swine flu was created by the state of Israel and unleashed in the U.S. in an attempt to start a new war in the Middle East. [​IMG]
  13. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Re: The Swine Flu-Fodder for the conspiracy theorists!

    Let's take that thought a step further!

    Mad cow disease made people afraid to eat beef; people turned to chicken.

    Bird flu; afraid of chicken eating pork.

    Swine flu; now people are afraid of meat products.

    I believe PETA and HSUS are behind this agenda. What better way to turn us into a bunch of vegans? :D<!-- / message -->
  14. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Re: The Swine Flu-Fodder for the conspiracy theorists!

    Al Gore has said that the global climate change aka global warming computer model that he invented predicted this pandemic.

    Scientist from Ever-Ready Battery Company has said that the spread of the disease is coming from bio diesel made from pig fat and then being introduced to the environment through the tail pipe.:D
  15. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Re: The Swine Flu-Fodder for the conspiracy theorists!

    :lol: Might go over better in humor. Spew.
  16. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Re: The Swine Flu-Fodder for the conspiracy theorists!

    Good idea..... done...
  17. Tracy

    Tracy Insatiably Curious Moderator Founding Member

    Re: The Swine Flu-Fodder for the conspiracy theorists!

  18. dragonfly

    dragonfly Monkey+++

    Re: The Swine Flu-Fodder for the conspiracy theorists!

    I tried to come up with something....but seriously, you guys got me beat by a mile on this one!
    I love it!
    Maybe it has to do with that lipstick on a pig thing?
    Alaska did it?
    Palin kissed a pig and it died from Alaskan fever?
    I'm going back to bed my head hurts!
  19. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    Re: The Swine Flu-Fodder for the conspiracy theorists!

    Attorney general Eric Holder stated today:
    "Inspite of my earlier comments (" banning any damn influenza I want to, that dares to show its face"); We have every intention of supporting the patients bill of rights; and this administration has no current plans to ban swine flu, home maufacturing of flu, or infringing on the sporting use of influenza as intended our forefathers.

    We believe the states should have every power to regulate the use,concealed carry or transmission of flu; ,open carry is currently legal. So the American public can relax and should not rush out to stock up on imported influenzas.

    In other news today"

    Sarah Brachia of the national group " Influenza control inc; Has announced a new lobbying effort to eliminate deadly copkiller influenza from our streets.( Quote Sarah:"These bugs are designed to cut right through their protective masks and vests").
  20. B540glenn

    B540glenn Should Be Working Founding Member

    Re: The Swine Flu-Fodder for the conspiracy theorists!

    I heard a rumor that, in an Al Jazera "the man on the street" interview, it was stated that the Swine Flu was manufactured by the US and the result was to make all muslims gay. Egypt knew of this and ordered all the swine in the country killed to prevent the spread of the evil disease.
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