Another reason to keep your preps private

Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by melbo, Jul 6, 2006.

  1. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    And, do you have things that would make for bad Front Page News?
    I sure as hell do. The reporters can make the ammo I expend on a day at the range seem like enough to take down the .gov.

    What to do?

    The AN, (IMHO) was a bit much... But I don't see a crime in the following:

  2. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    Valley Man Relives Attack
    Friday, June 30th - this was the video seen locally and regionally. Randy Telshaw's Ferndale home swarming with law enforcement after police discover weapons, grenades and more stockpiled inside - reportedly in preparation for Y2K.

    What you HAVEN'T heard is why police were called to his home in the first place and how this 53 year old man survived a vicious robbery and ambush. Strange noises roused Telshaw out of bed the morning of June 29th. Moments later - - Telshaw walks into the room and meets his intruders.

    He says one suspect was hiding in the closet and another was peeking around the door. Bloody and terrified, Telshaw stumbled to a phone he'd been shot in both arms.

    After police came, the focus quickly turned from Telshaw's ordeal to the contents in his home, which he didn't want to talk about. But he did tell us he's moving OUT of the neighborhood, his friends helping him move as his shattered arms are healing in casts.

    It's still not clear if Telshaw committed any crime by having the old weapons in his home. No suspects have been identified in the attack on Telshaw, who says he is moving out of Youngstown.

    Story Created: Jul 5, 2006 at 8:18 AM EST
    Story Updated: Jul 5, 2006 at 8:40 AM EST
  3. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    So he committed no crime, yet they stole.....I mean confiscated his belongings? :mad:
  4. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    Notice the reporter had to mention the "Made in Russia" about the ammo.... Bias SOB...

    BTW, Saw you Meyah post. I forget what his real name was but some board out there has his whole story if you google Gunkid
  5. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Nice I hope he can sue their asses off.
  6. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    They would shit if they saw the little amount of "Made in Russia" Wolf and Silver Bear I have. I guess it is acceptable to own foreign cars, electronics, etc. but not ammunition. Bastards.

    He has made his way around all of the boards it seems, even our little neck O' the woods. Quite a infamous past. I have to admit, I did enjoy his visit here, or rather the responses he gathered. Not to mention Magnus' visit to his site and the information relayed. It was worth many laughs.

    Maybe he will visit us from the 'pokey. I read on FS that he posted a whole silencer series online when he was in the pen.
  7. TailorMadeHell

    TailorMadeHell Lurking Shadow Creature

    Quote: 'Four or five refrigerators were found in the house, one with at least 30 pumpkin pies and containers of CoolWhip, said Bob DiMaiolo, a bomb squad technician'.

    That proves it, he's a terrorist. Arrest him, fry him and send his ashes back to terrorville. After all, everyone knows nothing says bomb more eloquently than 'Pumpkin pies and CoolWhip'. :mad: :censored:

    I guess it's just like the problem if they find dope on you. Just enough is for your consumption and any more than that means you are a dealer. Too bad these morons didn't tell that to him when he bought the black powder.

    He may have been going to build a bomb, he may have had it for barter, he may have liquified it and rubbed it all over himself while reading his bondage magazines. As far as I know, that all is perfectly legal to me.

    Let me see.... I look around here and what do I see? Ah yes, a jar of peanut butter. Oh, in the fridge there is a jar of jelly. Oh look, on the counter is a loaf of bread. I must be planning on making a PB&J sandwich. Right? Wrong. I toast the bread to eat with butter only. I eat PB by itself as I did when I was a kid. The jelly is for in case I want a quick something sweet. A nice spoon of it is perfect, plus you aren't tempted to eat the whole jar. Better than candy.

    Stupid idiots. Anyone can make a jackass into a horse if you look at it in the right light. It makes me feel safe and all warm and fuzzy inside to know that there are people who can see the items that I have in my home which could be used by evil beings for purposes other than goodness. I mean, someone has to look out for me right? Oh wait, yes that's right. It's me that's supposed to do that.

    Maybe they could pay me a visit and let me know what I am doing tomorrow. I have no clue. I hope they make sure to identify themselves. Might shoot them in a case of 'Oops, I thought you was a burgular'.

    So I guess since he had bondage stuff that means he was planning on kidnapping people. Could it have been just his sexual kicks? This is such an infringement of rights, I don't know where it will end.

    I'll put the box away here. I'm through with this. On to better thoughts.
  8. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    TMH, I'm with you on all of the above.
    We seem to be living under an "Ends justify the means" type microscope. USA PAtriot act allows these types of 'predictions'... makes me mad as hell.

    Notice how he was busted? Shot in both arms after a late night intrusion...

    Slowly but surely TPTB are clamping down on thse with stocks of stuff.
  9. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    You know... As much of a pain in the ass as GK was, I still don't think he should have to go to jail for "Assault Weapons", no matter why he was prohibited from having them. Was he a Con for murder or something violent? Or just a Con for being a dumbass. I have a wheelbarrow or 2 myself.

    I just hate the heavy handeness of our .gov. I tend to root for the underdogs
  10. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    I think you were right the first time.:mad:
  11. Clyde

    Clyde Jet Set Tourer Administrator Founding Member

    keepy thy mouth shut! Maybe one shouldn't really over stockpile at the home either.
  12. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    I think his problems go a lot deeper. Stealing guns, selling drugs, etc. He might be jailed and prosecuted over being a felon in possession, but I for one don't necessarily agree with that law. G. Gordon Liddy is a convicted felon, although in his words "Missus Liddy has a very nice firearms collection." There are a lot of people who were convicted of "white collar crimes" who now do not have the right to protect themselves. As far as the wheel barrow, I have a couple also, but I don't call them "tactical."

    A lot of the time I do too, just not in this case. ;)
  13. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    you might get caught
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  14. monkeyman

    monkeyman Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    First off have to say that I love the shirt in the above post but think if saw the guy in that shirt running it wouldnt be trying to keep up it would be he should be sure not to be in front of me or he may get run over. lol

    Now on the topic for the thread, I may have missed it but while they said the shells for the bazooka were inert they never said the grenades were and if they were live grenades then Im pretty sure they have something in the law books that at least kind of implies they frown on those in the possession of most of us.

    As far as the rest of the stuff, some of it I wouldnt like to think of being in that quantity near my house but still I figure SHOULD be no problems with, but there are restrictions to some of it anyway. I know you can only have something like 10 or 20 pounds of smokless powder on hand before you have to follow guidlines by law on its storage and then only something like 40 or 50 lbs without special lisencing so the amount of powder he had would be a legal problem. On some of the other things mentioned includeing the refridgerant, if its not properly stored and he dosent have the containment tanks to capture the old refridgerant and so on then I know that can be a problem now kind of like pouring oil in the storm drains only magnified. I think there are also laws regulating purchase and storage of the fertalizer now, I know the folks who sell it now have to keep records of who they sell what to now. When I go to the local elevator that sells all that stuff they have to have our names and info even if we are just buying feed under the federal laws.

    Im not saying I agree with the laws they have by any means on a lot of this crap let alone the way they went after it but there is at least some of the stuff that would be in violation of the laws on the books, I would imagine though that any remotely desent lawyer could get him out of it since they found it by snooping around when he was the victium of a crime and it would likely be able to have all the evidence thrown out if they do persue charges.
  15. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Wah!! Refrigerant is a dangerous, terroristic weapon? The weenies have struck again, making it seem like possessing stuff is ipso facto a problem. I wonder why they didn't inventory his underwear drawer.

    How come the Boy Scouts stash of leftover lawn fertilizer from last year's sale isn't a threat? The Scoutmaster's garage is a danger to the community!!
  16. TailorMadeHell

    TailorMadeHell Lurking Shadow Creature

    World's biggest threat.... Fruit Cake Manufacturers. How many of those are shut down? I say we bring up a petition. After all you can smash someone's head in with one of those things. Not to mention breaking teeth, can be used as a brick, also there is the mere threat of sending one. Outlaw it I say. Hahaha.
  17. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    The overwhelming thought that occurs to me is that someone is making it wrong to prepare for hard times...makes it too easy to resist the relocation camps.
  18. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Yep. Unpatriotic and unAmerican to think that any private preparations are needed. The government will care for you as long as you are ready at all times to leave the danger zone (fire, flood, hurricane or whatever) with your own supply of food, water and fuel. Seems a bit confusing to me.:eek:
  19. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    That same thought occured to me also. Of course when you get there you are disarmed and all of your possessions are confiscated. For the safety and good of all I am sure you would be told.
  20. TailorMadeHell

    TailorMadeHell Lurking Shadow Creature

    I can picture this, can you?....

    I had not enough time or money to prepare anything in the way of a self-sufficient homestead for myself and others so here I go. I grab up the only 30-30 I have, my backpack with some gear and bugout. I decide that I'm going to just travel around and see if maybe I can get in with a group that had been able to prepare and help out so I can at least earn my keep. I have no idea where to go though I think maybe a forest somewhere might have some kind of camp. So I'm walking through the woods and come to a pasture type clearing which is dimly lit up by the moonlight. So I decide to head through it and start walking, thinking what the world had come to. Just then I hear the sounds of atvs and pickups coming my way.

    I try to duck down in the short grass and see what it is about then a light is shown on me. I knew I was spotted and don't know what they would want, though the world had gone crazy, so I take off running. I can't shoot as I'm running full bore back to the woods hoping to evade some sort of psychotic killers or whatever they might be. Just as I take another step I get entangled in some kind of net and hit the ground. My rifle having a slight hair trigger goes off and I almost shoot myself when I hit the ground. Struggle as I might, there is no escaping from the net. So now I lay on the ground winded from the chase and the struggle against the net. The vehicles approach and I wonder if they are some kind of 'Deliverance' boys or possibly cannibals. Who knows after the SHTF. It's all strange.

    Finally I look up slightly and I see black boots and black pant legs coming toward me. Their voices remind me of the sheriff of Hazard county (Duke boys yall).

    "We got 'im aight, yee haw."

    "Whacha think we going get for 'im?"

    "Well, seeings as we got two others, maybe we can get a day off. I mean working for FEMA is hard work."


    Hope you all see that this may, can and most likely will happen when it comes down to the wire. "My government would not allow that." Yeah, your government of 1 (yourself) wouldn't do that. Though I think that FEMA would for the betterment of the country. Who comes for you will be a new group. They will be the N.W.O. That is a group made up of FEMA, local LEOs, Homeland Big Brother (I mean homeland security), and the ATF. All supposedly under the government's thumb, however all we that are not sheeple will understand that they are run by a politician that has the pres under their thumb. What you think?
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