Am glad to have found a decent board with like-minded individuals. Here is my question to all of you- are you truly prepared? I apologize if there is already a thread that covers this but it is something worth thinking about. Aimed more at those planning to bug out in a SHTF/TEOTWAWKI situation: You may have a all the gear in the world, all the food/water you think you'll ever need, but how do you plan to get it to your bugout location or put your bug-in plan in action? How's your fitness level? If you on your way home from work and SHTF, the freeway comes to a screeching halt 20 miles from your driveway, how do you plan to get there? Are you READY to make the journey back to your home to gather your supplies to bug out? Many have 60-80lbs of gear they say they are going to bring, yet have not put a single mile on their boots with that much weight. I am part of a small group of close friends who are of the survivalist school of thought. We decided that we needed to practice to see how we did. The first time was a horrible failure. Since then, we have improved our skills, figured out the best configurations for our packs, etc. We hike about once, sometimes twice per week. Our most recent hike (in the snow) was 16 miles, moderate elevation gain/loss with about 60lb packs each. I encourage all survival enthusiasts like myself to actually get out there and PRACTICE bugging out (or in, if you are so inclined.) That way you work out the kinks and when you really do need to get out of dodge and put your plan in place, you and your family/team/group/whatever will perform like a well-oiled machine. Get out there and pound sand! Cheers, urb PS Lights Out was an amazing read. I am going to throw a copy of it in my BOB.