Black Widows

Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by Spartan300, Mar 24, 2011.

  1. Spartan300

    Spartan300 Monkey+

    Something to watch out for in the summer is the Black Widow. Working in the back yard yesterday, moving some concrete blocks around I found a few of these guys! We see them here every single year. The suckers will make you sick...very sick. Try to keep all vegetation and mulch 18" away from the foundation of your home. Trim branches and shrubs away from your home to prevent spiders from using them as a path to your home. Seal any cracks or crevices where spiders may enter your house. Between the mountains here, we see them regularly. Be careful around damp and dark spots around your property....wear gloves if you are reaching around and working in these areas. Just a reminder.
  2. Falcon15

    Falcon15 Falco Peregrinus

    I've been bitten by black widows. The venom made me very ill.
  3. TnAndy

    TnAndy Senior Member Founding Member

    We have a black widow that lives down the road....husband got killed in a car wreck.
  4. Spartan300

    Spartan300 Monkey+

    Yeah, we do have a few of those kind of black widows in Tennessee too huh?
  5. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    Venom Black widow venom is primarily a neurotoxin, which as a rule does not cause local tissue death and destruction. Best known for widespread muscle spasm and often mimics that of a severe abdominal problem i.e. acute appendicitis, or ruptured ovarian cyst.
    The initial bite is very painful, but can go unnoticed. The
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    surface of the skin may display two red bite wounds, one, or none. The worst pain is in the first 8-12 hours, symptoms may continue for several days. All children, pregnant women and individuals with hypertension should be admitted to a hospital.
    Antivenom is available.
    Outdoor treatment for Black Widow bites:

    • Clean and irrigate the wound.
    • Application of ice or cool compresses.
    • Pain medication, muscle relaxants if available.
    • Transport immediately.
    Mature Black Widow Above
    Photos by Wayne Talley, North of Dallas, TX
    Immature Black Widow Below
    Captured by Launa McCray, R.N.
    Photos by Dan Williams Psy. D., PA-C
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    Black widow bite symptoms
    Initially, almost all bites from the latrodectus species is felt as an immediate pinprick sensation, and local pain. In approximately one hour after the bite, a small, erythematous area develops. This becomes larger with a blanched center. The venom acts through a calcium-mediated mechanism, which is the release of acetylcholine and nor-epinephrine. Subsequently , the vast majority of patients, around 70%, do experience hypertension, nausea, light sensitivity to the eyes, which is called photophobia, difficulty breathing, diarrhea, and muscle spasms and aches. These individuals can present like an acute abdomen, and mimic a ruptured ovarian cyst or appendicitis. In one study in Australia, however, around 70% of the individuals only presented with local symptoms and did not present with systemic symptoms.
    Intravenous narcotics for pain, and the benzodiazepines help tremendously. In the past, calcium gluconate infusion was thought to be helpful. However, it is not recommended any longer. Anti-venom against the latrodectus species is available by Merck and Company. Advise only to use in severe cases. You need to weigh using the anti-venom vs. the presentation of the patient. It is also important to dilute the anti-venom. Please see Merck and Company handout with the latrodectus anti-venom for dilution.
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  6. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    I see this one all the time in the new's...
    on vacation mostly...

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  7. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Nasty, very painful. I used to see them all the time as a kid.
  8. DevilDog13

    DevilDog13 Monkey+

    That's too funny!
  9. Andy the Aussie

    Andy the Aussie Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Oh....Red Back Spider (as well call 'em) plenty here around the house I am afraid.
  10. -06

    -06 Monkey+++

    Widows love dark damp places. Cement blocks, holes in bricks, steel, wood piles are all great hiding places. A brick mason bud has been bitten numerous times from them hiding in his bricks. My first cousin nearly died from numerous bites on his side while sleeping.
    Dangerous as they are the Brown Recluse is nastier. It will "rot" away flesh around the site and give you chronic symptoms that last for years.
    Best to avoid putting hands where you cannot see and wear gloves when working with the above.
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  11. Grape Ape

    Grape Ape Monkey+

    I breed these things as pets :p
  12. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    They are fairly common here; one of their favorite spots is between the downspouts and the foundation.
  13. Pyrrhus

    Pyrrhus Monkey+++

    Diatomaceous earth will smoke 'em.
  14. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

  15. -06

    -06 Monkey+++

    Witch doctor, LOL--back when outside privies were common the most bitten places were those things that dangle when sitting on the "throne". My Grandfather was bitten there when he was a young man.
  16. sarawolf

    sarawolf Monkey+++

    We found some in the wood pile where we were cutting last fall up by our barn, not good.

    One of our sons was bitten when he was 18 months old back in 1980. Poor little boy was so sick took over 6 weeks to get hm well.
  17. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

  18. irishpunk

    irishpunk Monkey+

    Isn't that Rue Paul ?

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